• KoboldCoterie
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    A man with 34 felony convictions can’t win the presidency in a nation where trust in institutions is high. It’s only in a culture where the justice system has long since lost its legitimacy that a man with such a thick criminal record as Trump glides by relatively unremarked. That one man can so effortlessly game American institutions to his own benefit says as much about the decrepit state of America’s institutions as it does about the moral decrepitude of the crook.

    Well, no shit. It’s the same shit that sane people have been saying for a long time. If only the media wasn’t completely dominated by the billionaire class, we might actually be able to organize around collective outrage, but most people seem content to just consume whatever Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos and Donald Trump tell them to consume and not think beyond that.

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        This has been the major talking point in our house today. Rewinding the time, how did first-time 18 year old voters spend their very formative teenage years? What media did they consume at the time, and how?

        Also, a question to the open because I can’t remember exactly: When did yall learn about the holocaust in american high school? For me it was maybe sophomore year? Weren’t these kids either social distancing, “attending” virtual school, being nutrient-deficient all the while, and also possibly running for their lives from a school shooter?

        It’s possible these kids don’t even know what the holocaust is, and a large portion of eligible youth that only hears news from the Joe Rogan podcast just voted to repeat hell because “orange man funny, woman didn’t go on my favorite show”?

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            I’m glad someone else sees it. Honestly I’m completely uncertain this will be reversible sans dire, dire consequences. We could agree that a syndrome exists, to the tune of generating masses of cultist followers, but even if we did, said followers would call it fake news and think nothing more. What combats that??

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              Call them out. Call their weird cognitive dissonance exactly what it is. Throw it back in their little snowflake faces

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                  All you can do is try. One conversation at a time, one step at a time. Don’t give into despair, that’s what the fascists want you to do.

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                    And remember the bystanders, the people listening but not participating. Especially the teenagers and young adults. Some of them may be coming from an environment where everyone around them spouts propaganda. You may be the first true voice of reason that they have ever heard.

                    You never know when you will help someone not only recognize that there’s a net wrapped around them, but also that it’s possible to escape between the knots.

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              An education system sufficiently funded to actually do what an education system is supposed to do would be a start. I’m sure the cult profiting from getting free sheep from the status quo will immediately get on funding the department of ed-

              Oh.

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            At some point it’ll have a name, it’ll be a syndrome.

            If history repeats itself then it almost looks like we could be entering the modern dark ages. So how do we fast track to a New Age of Enlightenment? A new age of reason. How do we excise ourselves of the scourge of christofascism?

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              almost looks like we could be entering the modern dark ages

              It was never guaranteed that society post-industrial revolution will eventually progress into a utopia. The past 150-200 years of relative decency and attempts at a democratic and fair civilization may have been an anomaly in human development. It may have been as short and fleeting as democratic Athens…followed by a couple thousand years of tyranny.

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                Nothing is guaranteed. But what would you like to see happen? What world would you like to live in and to hand off to the next generation? Focus on that and keep your eye on the prize

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          Even if you learn about the holocaust, nobody really learns about the rise of Hitler and how a sympathetic judiciary and law enforcement gave him the lightest possible sentence for trying to do a coup. You get the impression that Hitler was a bad man who just showed up and singlehandedly invented anti-Semitism and somehow got the whole country on board with the holocaust.

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        When you look at what the mainstream media spew 24/7, it’s obvious that aggressive propaganda works. And by “mainstream media” I mean the network with the greatest reach: Fox&Co-conspirators.