• AllHailTheSheep@sh.itjust.works
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      2 days ago

      yes, if you change the problem, you change the way we respond. that’s why there’s so many trolley problems spin offs in the first place

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            the morality doesn’t exist in the first place because we don’t live in a society that would allow someone to tie up six people on two tracks.

            we do live in a world with real problems. Complex problems. Problems that lose solvable value when they are reduced to a philosophical joke.

            so please tell me more about how we can solve the worlds problems by flipping switches on train tracks.

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        Don’t bother trying to explain philosophy directly to people online. We’re so convinced of our own intelligence that we refuse to consider that our knee-jerk reaction to anything might be worth exploring.

        If you want people to learn anything, you have to first of all tell them that they’re right, then add whatever you’re trying to teach them as if it’s some nuance of whatever they’re right about. Even if it makes their original opinion completely wrong. It works surprisingly often.

        Our egos have an outer layer of armor that prevents us from easily absorbing ideas unless they have a starting point of agreeing with whatever we already believe.

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          True for most sadly. But not for all.

          I’m happy to be proven wrong. It means I learned something that day. And I love learning new things.

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            I feel the same way, but it’s good to be aware of our own biases - there’s a bit of an aphorism that goes around about advertising and propaganda, that it works best on people who think it doesn’t work on them. If we think we’re immune to something, we let our guard down a bit. I used to think of myself as a very rational, intelligent, realistic guy, but in recent years I came to realise that I was kind of using that to protect my ego - I was wrong about a lot of things, and I could always find excuses to justify my beliefs as rational.

            Maybe I still make the same flaw, I don’t know. Nowadays, I try to stay more focused on being nice than being right. That way, even if I’m wrong, I’m not making people’s day worse.

            I’m not always successful with that.

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              Self awareness is doubt. If you’re doubting you haven’t stopped improving. You’re doing well, based on what you’ve said - keep it up :)