Prosecutors in Stockholm launch preliminary investigation into suspected sabotage, hours after Germany dubs cable failure part of a ‘hybrid operation’

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Swedish authorities say they have detected a Chinese ship moving near two telecoms cables that failed within hours of each other on the Baltic Sea bed in recent days.

Prosecutors in Stockholm have launched a preliminary investigation into suspected sabotage, hours after Germany dubbed the cable failure part of a “hybrid operation”.

On Sunday morning at about 10am, Swedish authorities registered problems with a data cable under the Baltic Sea from the Öland island to Lithuania. At 4am on Monday, telecoms operators in Finland and Germany reported problems with another cable called C-Lion-1.

Both cables were damaged in the Swedish economic zone, prompting prosecutors in Stockholm to take the investigation lead.

  • ashley0_0@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    9·
    5 days ago

    ever since i started using lemmy all I’ve heard is bad things about that instance so I don’t understand why we don’t just defederate from them? This is a genuine question to anyone with the answer, thanks!

    • Duamerthrax@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      4 days ago

      I started there. It’s tiring when every international political discussion boils done to China/Russia good because NATO bad. .ml is subtle about it and does a lot of word game shit you see in right wing media. They maintain enough plausible deniability to remain federated. The defederate instances were the one using slurs.

      • 0x815@feddit.orgOPEnglish
        51·
        4 days ago

        Yes, they are more subtle in parroting propaganda, but they block everyone who is only slightly critical of China/Russia. They are the same people.

    • 0x815@feddit.orgOPEnglish
      42·
      4 days ago

      @ashley0_0@lemmy.blahaj.zone This puzzles me, too. That instance is a cheap propaganda instance that has been banned by Reddit some time ago for a good reason. I don’t know why we don’t defederate.

      • federal reverse@feddit.orgMEnglish
        13·
        4 days ago

        It’s the instance admined by the authors of Lemmy itself. The official forum is !lemmy@lemmy.ml. It’s a bit disingenuous to ask to defederate from them, unless we want the already tense relationship with the authors of the software to break entirely.

          • federal reverse@feddit.orgMEnglish
            2·
            4 days ago

            Of course they could but that’s not free. Forked projects are a lot of work. Maybe it would be easier to go for a different software, such as kbin. Or maybe the defederation goes over just fine and arrangements are found easily. I don’t know. My point is there’s a social component to defederating that’s likely a bit bigger than just shutting out Russia/China enjoyers.

            • 0x815@feddit.orgOPEnglish
              11·
              4 days ago

              My point is there’s a social component to defederating that’s likely a bit bigger than just shutting out Russia/China enjoyers.

              I have to disagree. It’s not just this community’s “West bad, Russia/China bad okay” hypocrisy and the fact that they convey their narrative and their narrative only (everything else gets immediately blocked, while they accuse others literally of ‘double standards’). One of my main points is that they support Russia’s war in Ukraine, which is a genocide. It’s the only community that openly supports an attempted genocide.

              [Edit typo.]

              • federal reverse@feddit.orgMEnglish
                1·
                3 days ago

                That’s a response to an argument I was not making. I share your non-enthusiasm about .ml.

                I was talking about the social cost of locking out the creators of Lemmy. It’s reasonable to argue that that social cost is worth bearing. But it’s imo unreasonable to pretend it doesn’t exist.

                However, I would caution that .ml is the standard instance that many people start out at, because that’s the site promoted from Lemmy’s GitHub and from join-lemmy:org. There are reasonable people caught among the unreasonable ones.

                I’d object to [.ml] being the “only community that supports an attempted genocide” [emphasis mine], for two reasons:

                • The Grad and Bear instances also exist and are more consistently pro-Russian. They are already defederated from e.g. feddit.org, precisely because there is no social cost associated with defederating them.
                • I find it hard to accept this stance of absolute moral superiority. What the Russian government inflicts on Ukraine is atrocious but not entirely unparalleled.

                [Edith: formatting]

                • 0x815@feddit.orgOPEnglish
                  11·
                  3 days ago

                  What the Russian government inflicts on Ukraine is atrocious but not entirely unparalleled.

                  What does that mean? The aggressor here is Russia, they started the war unprovoked. What exactly is ‘unparalleled’?

    • milicent_bystandr@lemm.eeEnglish
      21·
      4 days ago

      I feel used to the internet being full of stupid nonsense, so I just ignore .ml’s share, and in a way it’s a refreshing balance to the usual genre from e.g. .world and Reddit. Usually it’s either run-of-the-mill echo chamber or respectful discussion.

      But there’s lots of good stuff on .ml too. I’m glad to still be federated.