cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/1255681
Archived version: https://archive.ph/tAw7a
Archived version: https://web.archive.org/web/20230809205032/https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-66457089
Sounds like (purely speculation, since the details aren’t available) he pulled a gun on or otherwise threatened the agents coming to arrest him, based on his other behavior. Told them to come back with a warrant, they did so, and he took issue?
Either way, posting on the internet about assassinating government officials, regardless of whether it’s serious or not, was probably not the smartest opening move.
That won’t stop the far right from turning him into a martyr
They sure are big on traitors and hostile to the rule of law lately.
Lately?
The right used to at least pretend to be into law and order.
They still pretend, they just also pretend that the rule of law is different than what it is.
You know how many far-righters have “back the blue” and thin blue line bumper stickers?
Yes the same guys who rant about government tyranny yet defend police (government employees/enforcers) at every opportunity love to also rant about the rule of law unless those rules are applied to them or their current flavor of the week messiah.
And yet here were are in a thread about the state murdering someone over words and liberals are falling over themselves to “back the blue” hardest.
They still are.
“Law and order” is a racist dog whistle.
They were never into law and order.
They were just into law beating and brutalizing black and poor people.
He never said they were. He said they pretended to.
They’ve always backed conservative cops enforcing conservative laws against “other people” but letting conservatives off with a warning.
They turned a dumb cunt that jumped over a barricade to rush a bunch of men with guns into a martyr.
They’ll turn this guy into The Jesus to Trumps God.
What word did you try and use there?
it was cu nt, it’s only censored on hexbear
What you mean that won’t STOP them? That actually STARTs them again!
Or from producing more of them.
He must’ve forgotten to add “…in Minecraft.”.
He was posting over and over on how he’d kill the prez, the veep, and Alvin Bragg for months. The one that finally did him in was talking about sniping Diamond Joe. They paid him a visit, and he got squirrelly on 'em.
Thats just the official story. What actually happened was that dark biden’s Cyber-Brain picked up the threat, so he used his lazer vision while at a rally in New Mexico to vaporize him.
The media is totally censoring the thousand mile long lazer beam the president shot out of his eyes. They have the footage, but they are too afraid to tell the truth, because then the Clinton Mutant Teenage Turtles will kill them.
Read all about it on that guys truth social page.
Dark brandon strikes again!
“Opening” is quite an interesting word in this context
It’s okay. The bodycam footage should clear this up so there’s no ambiguity and we don’t have to take the lying FBI (history shows) at their word.
Yeah, umm… what did he think would happen when he threatened the life of a sitting president?
Right? The US government kills people for no reason all the time and this guy thinks he’ll be safe after giving them a reason
It’s worth pointing out that the victim probably isn’t in social circles where the government killing people for no reason all the time gets much attention. Hyperreality is a serious thing, the guy’s worldview probably makes it seem like free speech exists, unless it’s a bad slur on facebook dot commie.
a death sqaud in a banana republic … psychic evaluation in a civilisation ?
I mean what was supposed to happen? Are we meant to be scared of the FBI? They can’t even take down an overweight elderly man with a combover…
The guy openly posted that the FBI wouldn’t dare raid him because they’d get a 45 ACP in the face. I’m no law enforcement apologist but that kind of boast can put people on edge. Specific threats of violence should never be acceptable.
I also prefer my threats of violence to be vague and unactionable.
I’ll see you soon.
Not if I see you first.
My god you are such a troublesome priest…
I’m not a priest, buddy.
I’m not your buddy, pal
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"The complaint said Robertson came to the attention of federal agents in March after he posted a threat against Mr Bragg on Truth Social, the social network owned by Mr Trump. The company alerted the FBI’s National Threat Operations Center.
FBI agents then visited the suspect, who told them that the post was a “dream” and ended the conversation by saying: “We’re done here! Don’t return without a warrant!”"
Not only does Truth Social narc on him, but the “dreams” defense was a true sign of just how far gone that asshole was.
You know you goofed when Truth Social turns you in to the feds
Truth social is in it for the grift, not for the heat. They aren’t really the revolutionary counterculture fortress they make themselves out to be. They just figured out that stupid people are easy to monetize. Which is rapidly becoming MBA canon for all social media.
Honestly monetizing stupidity if you don’t have any personal morals is exceptionally easy. I often get jealous at the revenues even some of the simplest of these gifts are, and monkeypaw wish I was a shittier person.
It’s why every scammer goes after old people. They usually aren’t as sharp as they once were unfortunately…
My coworker just told me a story about his grandmother being robbed of 300k because some asshat came to her house and said she absolutely had to have the roof redone asap or it would collapse on her… She drove him to the bank and emptied her account… I was infuriated hearing about that and that he got away…
Why do you say that? Do you think an obvious grift like truth social isn’t going to be play nice with the government? Why would any action they do hold more weight then something like facebook, reddit or lemmy?
They’re taking away his right to free dreams.
I imagine they put him down like a dog after he said that. I also imagine they just killed him first and made up that statement afterwards. Who’s going to contradict the crazed armed murderers, not the dead guy I can tell you that, just ask Fred Hampton.
it’s a really bizarre story, I can’t find a single article explaining what actually happened. usually the cops lie and say he drew a weapon on them, or shot at them first, or they feared for their lives or something. there’s nothing with this, they’re just saying he’s dead.
It all boils down to, there used to be subbed crazy idiot mouthing off to his phone. Then the cops came and now there’s a dead body.
This is what’s on the table with cop interaction, they’re going to kill you. They know the game better than you, they’ll always find a way to justify it and you’ll be too much of a rotting course to care.
The messages continued as late as Tuesday, when he posted: “Perhaps Utah will become famous this week as the place a sniper took out Biden the Marxist.”
The world is lesser now that we have lost this great mindGuy just wanted Biden to live up to the legacy of the first Catholic president
lol dumbass didn’t even add “in Minecraft” to his posts
Completely forgot this was a thing lol
inb4 he’s turned into a martyr.
This is just the first step of Biden’s ethnic cleansing of white cishet Christians.
You promise?
100% surious. 4 real this time.
Isn’t Biden a white cishet Christian? Unless you don’t consider Catholics as Christian
good thing my family are catholic then
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Virgin Putin
- Let’s Prigo get away with an armed coup attempt
- Everybody laughs at him
Vs.
Chad Biden
- Has guy who wrote dumb threats against him online killed
- Strikes fear in the hearts of his enemies
Another member of Ya’l-Qaeda dusted, and nothing much of value was lost.
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At least he went out doing what he loved… being an idiot.
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I don’t if he could read before, but certainly he cannot read any more.
Reminds me of the guy who tried to break into a secure building with a gun , became frustrated by the bullet proof glass, and then hid in a field in the middle of his shoot-out with the cops to post some updates about his shoot-out.
This kind of guy is just going to become a thing in American culture now, I guess.
Honestly if there wasn’t going to be innocent people caught in the crossfire, I’d be all for right-wing nutters starting shootouts with cops to be a thing. Hearing about a dead
or an 
on the news wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world.Becoming Grand Nagus changed you, Rom. :( I’d rather see the nutters get therapy and the corrupt cops get fired.
Not even a gun. It was a fucking nail gun. Half-assed approach to domestic terrorism these days.
counterpoint:
Apparently they can be good for getting through safety glass that would stop bullets? Idk
Except that these are completely different. In this case the guys home was broken into by a bunch of uniformed gangsters
hog on hog violence, you love to see it!
I like it when bad things happen to right wingers
Same, those fucking “right-wingers” advocating for universal healthcare, the overthrow of capitalism, and the uprising for the proletariat.
Oh what’s that? That isn’t a right-wing thing? Well I just had the federal government murder you, and obviously the federal government would only murder “right-wingers” so I’m sure it’s you who was mistaken.
What’s this soft-ass “oh, but what if they do it to you?” bullshit? I’ll be mad about that a per-case basis when it happens but i’m not gonna be upset some dumbfuck I probably wanted clapped anyways gets clapped.
Hot Take. Cops killing people in no knock-raids is bad, even if you think “they deserved it.”
You think this guy was left wing?
No? But if it were politically convenient, he would be framed that way and he’d be dead no matter what. Bsically if you think that the government should murder “right-wingers” you are just a fascist.
What a shit take.
I don’t know that I would call that fascism. I think leftist governments (which we do not have) killing right wingers (frequently actual fascists) has been an unfortunate but inevitable part of defending revolutions historically. But a right wing government killing right wingers is something else entirely.
We can more or less expect our right wing government to kill leftists, because it has always done that, continues to, and would be doing a lot more of it now if there were actually more leftists wielding any sort of power. You can about count on one hand the number of right wingers the cops have murdered for political reasons, so I’m not sure the “what if they do it to us” hypothetical is all that illuminating. Because again, they always have been doing it to us.
You might find it in poor taste, but I can understand somebody not being too broken up about the shoe being on the other foot for once. Also, if this guy was posting about shooting the “Marxist” joe Brandon, I’m pretty sure he’s exactly the type of person who would happily shoot as many actual marxists as possible given the right opportunity. So I guess I’m not all that broken up about it either.
Though i do wonder if he had dementia. In which case it is in fact somewhat sad.
A leftwing government killing actual fascists can be fine. A right wing government deploying door-to-door death squads on people some of which happen to include actual fascists is never fine and the only people cheering that shit on are piece of shit cowards or just Liberals, for short.
Well, yes… but what does that have to do with any of this? Is that actually how you would characterize what happened to this guy? Or that the people laughing at the irony of his demise are “liberals cheering on door to door death squads?” That just seems like a deliberate misreading of both the events and the reaction to them.
Look at the comments in this thread. People think that what happened to him is justified, correct, and expected.
Top voted comment is police apologia and giving them the benefit of the doubt, which if you’ve paid attention, should never be granted to the police.
Second comment is “what did he think would happen for threatening the life of a sitting president.” As if posting on facebook should obviously result in the FBI coming to kill you in a predawn no-knock raid.
Tons more with similar sentiment that obviously the police are the good guys here and it was correct that this guy should have been killed by him.
The police force shouldn’t be summarily executing people like this, you’re right about that.
But this post conveys a very strange and counter-productive understanding of what fascism is and what makes someone a fascist. Might as well be saying ‘if you think drinking water shouldn’t be privatised you are just a stalinist’. If we want to stop fascism, we have to understand what it is, and that isn’t it. If anything, a fascist furiously opposes governments murdering “right-wingers”… for pretty obvious reasons.
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What the fuck are you on about?
Ok so either he drew a gun on them or they executed him. Well it should be cleared up quickly with body cam footage.
What’s that? No body cam footage?
Right, then I’m going to have to assume they executed him while he was surrendering peacefully.
(I voted for biden, but I also don’t trust the fbi to miss a chance to shoot someone)
I think it’s hilarious that anyone trusts the FBI right now. They have been actively involved in sabotaging progressive groups and socialist demonstrations basically since their inception. And now Republicans have a massice gripe because we have like a dozen agents that say they have been silenced after whistleblowing related to Jan 6th.
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You can assume it but would you bet any meaningful amount of money on it?
This guy literally directly threatened to kill FBI agentssfyer they came to talkvto him.
“Next up on Fox News… The libs have weaponized the FBI and are executing innocent conservatives for exercising their freedumb of speech!”
That was already aired months ago, this will just be a follow up story that they use as “proof”
Yes, the parties of Capital use the state-monopoly on violence to enforce the status quo. How old are you that you don’t realize this?
