The conversations are amazing

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    2 hours ago

    wow the level of cope in this thread (thankfully not that many tho) arguing over stats - which are probably made up anyway.

    some people can’t handle that most humans just wanna be friends regardless of gov politics bs

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      1 hour ago

      yep most genuinely don’t care, people just hate to be a part of something lol

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    17 minutes ago

    Quick! Somebody link to one thing the US government has said about China.

    You lose points by googling, because everyone upvoting surely has seen the US government say something about China and knows where to find that document.

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      7 minutes ago

      The fuck are you even on about? Please broadcast your mental inferiority somewhere else.

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    8 minutes ago

    Trying to talk about the conversations on Rednote while on .ml is kind of hilarious.

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    42 minutes ago

    Wow, the content on the Chinese-controlled social media platform aligns with the Chinese narrative? Shocking.

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      25 minutes ago

      “The jews are secretly controlling the world. Don’t look at the chemtrails, they inseminate you with 5G!!”

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    1 hour ago

    我爱小红书!I love rednote! So many cool people and I’m brushing up on my mandarin 😎

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    People are people no matter where they live, which also means you can’t trust any government anywhere. Propaganda is powerful.

    The idea of a social credit score has always been hilarious to me, like yo bros we have credit scores over here and they legitimately fuck us over since you need good credit to do alot of things like renting a place to live.

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      I like how one person said they don’t use child labour because they are inefficient. If they were efficient though …

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        Child labour IS inefficient that’s why they didn’t mention the uighur slaves

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    Few things blew my mind even though I’ve been a big fan of Chinese economic and political policy for a while

    They actually really like Soviet Culture, the marching soldiers and flags etc. Soviet rock like Kino and the like is very popular!

    They’re casually Marxist, its not something they have to fight to learn about so socialism is a casual existence for them. I figured the youth would be “too cool or hip” but doesn’t seem to be the case

    They’re very similar as gamers, they really like shooters like battlefield and cs go. I assume their MMOs are different but I’m asking about that

    It truly is a massive cultural exchange the likes of which have never been seen before. I’m trying to find out if they grew up on the same games, Morrowind Deus Ex Thief Ultima Online D&D etc

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    Eh, there’s truth and lies on both sides. Coming from someone that lived in china for 4 years and was able to engage with Chinese primary news sources. But basic healthcare in china is faster and cheaper, but then again I went to get a wart removed and they prescribed me acorn paste that accelerated the growth of the wart. So win some lose some.

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      Everyone pretending Europe doesn’t exist? Most countries have most healthcare for “free” (mandatory healthcare taxes).

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        Eh… as someone living in western Europe, I can’t say it’s free. I would say that it’s subsidized at most. We still have to pay a part of our healthcare, we can get a private health insurance to complete the government coverage, but it’s still not enough to cover all of it.

        Mental health isn’t covered at all, ophtalmology barely (still gotta pay 200€ for a pair of glasses, after public + private coverage), dental only the very basic is covered…

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        The kinda people joining Rednote right now are not the same kinda people who know alot about geopolitics, or honestly anything beyond their personal bubble. Yeah, they’re just gonna keep pretending Europe doesn’t exist.

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          The game companies forget the geo-politics (time scheduling with ET/PT) except for the US/CN, US shops completely forgetting there exists a world beyond US, CA and maybe MX as shipping outside maybe exists only to the UK (for whatever reason)…
          ;-;

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    10 hours ago

    There’s a bunch of Chinese posts asking if the stuff about school shootings, fires, homelessness are exaggerated propaganda only to be told otherwise. It’s both hilarious and sad.

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      9 hours ago

      People of the US and China are both unsure of what to believe about the other, because both are so propagandized lol

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        There is definitely more direct censorship of domestic events in China than in the US. For instance, in the US it is widely publicised that the government separates children from adults at the border. Ask Chinese about the Uyghur work camps and they won’t know.

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        Who told you that the people of China are propagandized, especially to hate other countries and peoples as much as the US does?

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          Friends of mine who have moved away from China. One of them had police at their door in China for social media posts that were friendly to Uyghurs (not even anything to do with the genocide, just general friendliness as a “we’re all Chinese” kind of message). Being taken to police stations for even slightly questioning the state narrative is terrifying.

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          Their access to news is controlled and for some topics all available news is what we’d call propaganda. Particularly anything about Japan or the Taiwan issue. Most people I know there realize this to an extent but without any other information do still believe the core idea even if skeptical of details.

          But at the same time I’d argue there’s no such thing as a population that’s not propagandized. In the US the big news corporations only will present views favorable to their profitability and continued growth. Sure they disagree with eachother, but it’s still always a pro-business view. State news from Russia is (I’d argue rightly) not available on many US platforms to discourage it’s influence for example.

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          6 hours ago

          Woah I never recognized your username in the wild before. Thanks for giving us Lemmy. Huge fan.

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              You mean how both China, and the US propagandize their citizens? Yeah, I’m fully aware of that already. All states will do it, as a system of control over the working class, in order to continue to exploit them.

              I mean, if controlling the people wasn’t the goal, whats the purpose of the oppression of a state?

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    10 hours ago

    Circle jerking about China is as ridiculous as circle jerking about the US. We’ve been here before with US vs USSR, but this time everyone has a megaphone and an IQ that can be measured with a ruler.

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    If banning tik tok ends up galvanizing demand for healthcare reform I’m going to laugh my ass off

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    10 hours ago

    imagine making social media so bad your own citizens actively procure your biggest rival’s networks.

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      I think there’s a simple desire to move to pastures new. “Use Instagrmam or Youtube Shorts or Snapchat” No, we’ve been there and done that.