genie is the djinn, it’s just an anglicized version of the same word. they’re not demons and the enslaved part is mostly just fairy tales. culturally the djinn are just unseen people, living in some sort of parallel state of being that doesn’t affect humans and vice versa. some believe they can sometimes interact or appear as well.
just like humans they are supposed have free will, can be good or bad people, believe in god or not, and even face judgment after death like humans as well.
I think they meant “fairy tale” as opposed to “religious” or “mythological” accounts. More contemporary or western stories involving them being less canon than traditional stories.
There are a lot of appearances of them in stories dating back to pre-islamic middle eastern times, so there are a lot of stories.
In one, a man finds a lamp in the sand and rubs it to wipe the dust off. This wakes the genie who is pissed to be woken up, and decided to kill the man and his entire family. The man freaks out, on account of getting himself and family killed, and in a moment of desperation asks the genie how someone as great and powerful as they are could fit in such a small lamp. Genie scoffs at the mans ignorance, says he can turn into smoke, like this, and just zip in, like ^so. The man stuffs a cork in the lamp, trapping the genie. The genie demands to be let out, and the man agrees on the condition that the genie swears to spare him and his family. Genie agrees, and the man lets him out.
In another, a man sitting under a tree throws a fruit pit over his shoulder, and then a genie appears saying he’s gonna kill him because the fruit hit his invisible son and instantly killed him. The man is rightfully ‘wtf’ about this, but the genie is very serious, throws the man to the ground and pulls out his sword. As he’s about to be killed, the man exclaims that he has a family, children, people he’s responsible for, and that if the genie lets him go and arrange his affairs so that they’re taken care of and don’t suffer he swears he’ll come back and let the genie do as he wills. The genie says that’s fair, and tells the man to return on the first day of the new year.
Man goes home, settles his affairs, spends time with his family and generally does what one would do knowing you’re gonna die in a specific day. Day comes around, everything is prepared and ready, the man loads his burial clothes in his backpack and heads out. Gets to the tree and is sitting there crying when a scholar comes along leading a gazelle on a leash, and he asks the man’s story. Hearing it, the scholar swears to stay with him until the end. Another scholar comes past as they wait, this one with two majestic dogs. He too swears to wait with the man. A third shows up with a mule, same story.
Finally, as the man is almost crazed with fear and grief, the genie shows up and demands the man stand to be killed. He does, and as the genie prepares to strike, one of the scholars asks the genie if he’ll give him 1/3 of the man’s life debt if, upon hearing the story of him and the gazelle, he’s amazed and delighted. Story told, it’s amazing, and the genie continues to collect his 2/3 life debt when the same happens with the scholar with the majestic dogs, and then again with the scholar with the mule until the man’s life debt has been satisfied. Genie leaves, man profusely thanks the scholars who explain that it’s all in a days work for three old scholars wandering around with an eclectic collection of animals.
In large part, it’s intended to serve as a framing story for the scholars.
They serve a lot of purposes that are also often filled by fairy, leprechauns, or demons, so twisted wishes are just another iteration of careful wording being required when talking to strange powerful beings who offer you something being fun to think about. Over time, it twisted from needing to think through what you wish for and you’ll be fine, to Amelia Bedilia style hyper literal interpretation, and then to downright malicious compliance bb b
I heard that in some cultures genies are enslaved demons and malicious compliance is the only way they have left to fight back
That would be the Djinn
genie is the djinn, it’s just an anglicized version of the same word. they’re not demons and the enslaved part is mostly just fairy tales. culturally the djinn are just unseen people, living in some sort of parallel state of being that doesn’t affect humans and vice versa. some believe they can sometimes interact or appear as well.
just like humans they are supposed have free will, can be good or bad people, believe in god or not, and even face judgment after death like humans as well.
I hate to break it to you, buddy, but everything about genies is just fairy tales.
you can go off back to r/atheist, buddy; not interested in your euphoric enlightenment.
I bet you believe in richard nixon too.
To quote Tricky Dick: “Arooooo!”
First werewolf president. So ahead of his time. We need this energy back in the white house.
I think they meant “fairy tale” as opposed to “religious” or “mythological” accounts. More contemporary or western stories involving them being less canon than traditional stories.
No they were clearly claiming genies were real because that is what my assumption was and I can never be wrong.
Genie vs Jafar… you can tell by the colour ;)
I thought it was a morality tale about how people should not be greedy and instead find happiness in their life via their own means
There are a lot of appearances of them in stories dating back to pre-islamic middle eastern times, so there are a lot of stories.
In one, a man finds a lamp in the sand and rubs it to wipe the dust off. This wakes the genie who is pissed to be woken up, and decided to kill the man and his entire family. The man freaks out, on account of getting himself and family killed, and in a moment of desperation asks the genie how someone as great and powerful as they are could fit in such a small lamp. Genie scoffs at the mans ignorance, says he can turn into smoke, like this, and just zip in, like ^so. The man stuffs a cork in the lamp, trapping the genie. The genie demands to be let out, and the man agrees on the condition that the genie swears to spare him and his family. Genie agrees, and the man lets him out.
In another, a man sitting under a tree throws a fruit pit over his shoulder, and then a genie appears saying he’s gonna kill him because the fruit hit his invisible son and instantly killed him. The man is rightfully ‘wtf’ about this, but the genie is very serious, throws the man to the ground and pulls out his sword. As he’s about to be killed, the man exclaims that he has a family, children, people he’s responsible for, and that if the genie lets him go and arrange his affairs so that they’re taken care of and don’t suffer he swears he’ll come back and let the genie do as he wills. The genie says that’s fair, and tells the man to return on the first day of the new year.
Man goes home, settles his affairs, spends time with his family and generally does what one would do knowing you’re gonna die in a specific day. Day comes around, everything is prepared and ready, the man loads his burial clothes in his backpack and heads out. Gets to the tree and is sitting there crying when a scholar comes along leading a gazelle on a leash, and he asks the man’s story. Hearing it, the scholar swears to stay with him until the end. Another scholar comes past as they wait, this one with two majestic dogs. He too swears to wait with the man. A third shows up with a mule, same story.
Finally, as the man is almost crazed with fear and grief, the genie shows up and demands the man stand to be killed. He does, and as the genie prepares to strike, one of the scholars asks the genie if he’ll give him 1/3 of the man’s life debt if, upon hearing the story of him and the gazelle, he’s amazed and delighted. Story told, it’s amazing, and the genie continues to collect his 2/3 life debt when the same happens with the scholar with the majestic dogs, and then again with the scholar with the mule until the man’s life debt has been satisfied. Genie leaves, man profusely thanks the scholars who explain that it’s all in a days work for three old scholars wandering around with an eclectic collection of animals.
In large part, it’s intended to serve as a framing story for the scholars.
They serve a lot of purposes that are also often filled by fairy, leprechauns, or demons, so twisted wishes are just another iteration of careful wording being required when talking to strange powerful beings who offer you something being fun to think about. Over time, it twisted from needing to think through what you wish for and you’ll be fine, to Amelia Bedilia style hyper literal interpretation, and then to downright malicious compliance bb b
Absolutely love this anf probably gona use this for dnd