I’ve wondered through favelas in Rio. Nice people, tasty snacks, fine views (they are on hillsides), some great music. But that was over a decade ago, I heard situation got worse again during Temer/Bolso time, hope it’s improving now.
The most “dangerous” cities are Rio, São Paulo, and Salvador. But the thing about the lethality of those cities? Most of the people who are dying aren’t foreign expats like you, it’s the inhabitants of the samesuch poor areas, surrounded by mobsters and having to just deal with that on a day to day basis.
For everyone else? The big urban centers are dangerous to your property. Be careless and you will be mugged. Not pickpocketed. Mugged.
But at the same time Brazil is a pretty large place with lots of different cities. I’ve lived in a medium-to-large city (and NOT one of the famous ones Gringos would know) my entire life and been mugged… Twice. In thirty years. Both were harmless other than the loss of my cell phone.
I’ll be honest, your country is really beautiful. I’ll probably want to visit it one day. Not sure I’d ever want to live there though - twice in 30 years is already way more than anyone I know here in Estonia, where muggings haven’t really been a thing since the 90s. I’m way too used to my safe cocoon lol
Hmm, I don’t know if it’s exceptionally nice, but it’s definitely nice. I’ve also visited NYC. Didn’t feel unsafe at any point, though of course I didn’t wander too far out. Walked a bunch around Manhattan and Brooklyn, took the subway a couple of times.
I don’t think the US is as bad (in this respect) as media would have you believe. Having grown up in a relatively large dwindling industrial city in the Midwest, visited Chicago very regularly for a time, lived in the southeast, and now in one of the cities often cited as ‘crime ridden’, I know one person who was mugged and they knew their assailants and it was in my hometown which no one would recognize.
I have friends from St. Louis and Detroit, some of the percieved ‘most dangerous’ cities here. While they recommend caution or street sense when I visit, I haven’t experienced anything but kindness or indifference from strangers. On the other hand, one of my friends was hit and killed by a car in Detroit, and when I left town in the southeast once, saw a bunch of white power banners on someone’s house, which is kinda a promise of crime.
None of this is to say I think the US is better than Brazil or Estonia or anywhere else, I’ve got endless criticism for this country. I mean that the crime reported on is usually exaggerated, and the likelyhood of experiencing the crime that does happen increases as the money you have decreases.
And not to make this even longer, but the people with the means to move to another state much less another country are the wealthy. The poor, who are the ones who might benefit most from moving, are unable to, trapped in the cycle here.
And not to make this even longer, but the people with the means to move to another state much less another country are the wealthy. The poor, who are the ones who might benefit most from moving, are unable to, trapped in the cycle here.
I will say you are mostly right, but also note that all the refugees that have been going everywhere (including into Brazil! We get lots of Haitian and Colombian refugees mostly) since before I was born were exceptionally poor people.
I am legally mandated (it’s in my country’s constitution I’m pretty sure) to say “come to Brazil” in response to that.
My Portuguese is shit, but I’ll learn…
Isn’t it really dangerous in Brazil if you like accidentally go in a favela or something? Or is that just in Rio?
I’ve wondered through favelas in Rio. Nice people, tasty snacks, fine views (they are on hillsides), some great music. But that was over a decade ago, I heard situation got worse again during Temer/Bolso time, hope it’s improving now.
The most “dangerous” cities are Rio, São Paulo, and Salvador. But the thing about the lethality of those cities? Most of the people who are dying aren’t foreign expats like you, it’s the inhabitants of the samesuch poor areas, surrounded by mobsters and having to just deal with that on a day to day basis.
For everyone else? The big urban centers are dangerous to your property. Be careless and you will be mugged. Not pickpocketed. Mugged.
But at the same time Brazil is a pretty large place with lots of different cities. I’ve lived in a medium-to-large city (and NOT one of the famous ones Gringos would know) my entire life and been mugged… Twice. In thirty years. Both were harmless other than the loss of my cell phone.
I’ll be honest, your country is really beautiful. I’ll probably want to visit it one day. Not sure I’d ever want to live there though - twice in 30 years is already way more than anyone I know here in Estonia, where muggings haven’t really been a thing since the 90s. I’m way too used to my safe cocoon lol
That’s fair, but isn’t Estonia like
An exceptionally nice place to live?
I would wager that for an american coming from like. NY, or Detroit, Brazil would be outright comfy by comparison.
Hmm, I don’t know if it’s exceptionally nice, but it’s definitely nice. I’ve also visited NYC. Didn’t feel unsafe at any point, though of course I didn’t wander too far out. Walked a bunch around Manhattan and Brooklyn, took the subway a couple of times.
I don’t think the US is as bad (in this respect) as media would have you believe. Having grown up in a relatively large dwindling industrial city in the Midwest, visited Chicago very regularly for a time, lived in the southeast, and now in one of the cities often cited as ‘crime ridden’, I know one person who was mugged and they knew their assailants and it was in my hometown which no one would recognize.
I have friends from St. Louis and Detroit, some of the percieved ‘most dangerous’ cities here. While they recommend caution or street sense when I visit, I haven’t experienced anything but kindness or indifference from strangers. On the other hand, one of my friends was hit and killed by a car in Detroit, and when I left town in the southeast once, saw a bunch of white power banners on someone’s house, which is kinda a promise of crime.
None of this is to say I think the US is better than Brazil or Estonia or anywhere else, I’ve got endless criticism for this country. I mean that the crime reported on is usually exaggerated, and the likelyhood of experiencing the crime that does happen increases as the money you have decreases.
And not to make this even longer, but the people with the means to move to another state much less another country are the wealthy. The poor, who are the ones who might benefit most from moving, are unable to, trapped in the cycle here.
I will say you are mostly right, but also note that all the refugees that have been going everywhere (including into Brazil! We get lots of Haitian and Colombian refugees mostly) since before I was born were exceptionally poor people.
God I want to