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Donald Trump, who attended the national prayer service following his inauguration, and his allies attacked Episcopal Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde after her sermon criticized his treatment of marginalized communities.

Trump called her a “Radical Left Trump hater” and criticized her sermon as “boring” and “nasty.”

Fox News and GOP Rep. Mike Collins joined in, with Collins absurdly calling for her deportation.

Critics noted the hypocrisy in Trump’s selective embrace of religion, celebrating faith only when it aligns with his political agenda, and warned of the Streisand Effect amplifying Budde’s message.

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    Religion must be celebrated, protected and venerated,

    No. No it must not. This completely unnecessary statement severely degrades the credibility of the rest of the piece.

    The Aztecs used to use human sacrifice every day as part of their religious ceremonies. Shall we “celebrate, protect, and venerate” that?

    What about modern day religions that practice genital mutilation? Or other completely abhorrent practices?

    No: Religions should be viewed with skepticism and a critical eye. All throughout history they have been responsible for some of the worst of all human behavior and even to this day continue to lead people towards dark, unethical paths.

    “I’m not convinced that faith can move mountains, but I’ve seen what it can do to skyscrapers.” -William H. Gascoyne

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      Cool, I know Mariann. She’s super cool. Im concerned for her and her husband right now.

      edit: husband I mixed up her and Bonnie Perrywho is the Bishop of Detroit

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        To explain the above comment:

        The concentration camps were meant for undesirables.

        They wanted those undesirables gone. At first it was fine if they left the country on their own. Then it became tricky, because the undesirables without somewhere to go, or because they were initially mistakenly lead to believe that they were “an exception” to being undesirable, couldn’t leave. So they got sent to deportation camps, indefinitely (sound familiar anyone?)

        These camps weren’t cheap, they so they used them for slave labor a little. But slaves need some food and care to be useful, and that shit gets expensive, so the disabled, sick, particularly mouthy dissenters were just killed.

        Unfortunately, fascists don’t operate on logic, they operate on power. So expect that running may be an option, but defending yourself might be a necessary alternative. Don’t believe that they have anyone they will protect other themselves, and only so long as they don’t feel threatened from within.

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    Even the mildest of mild criticisms bite him to his core.

    Such a thin skinned little bitch, but all fascists are at their core.

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    Fox News and GOP Rep. Mike Collins joined in, with Collins absurdly calling for her deportation.

    Pause on this moment. Don’t pass by it and write it off as more fantastical nonsense.

    Hold it up to the light, really examine it. They want to start to detain millions of supposedly-illegal people, and “deport” them. Some of them were born here. Some of them came here as small children. But they’re going to be “deported,” presumably to somewhere vaguely related to where they “came from.” That’s going to happen. Whether it happens on the scale of millions like they want to do remains to be seen. But it’s definitely going to happen to some number of people, and federal law enforcement is making a push to gain the ability to kick in some random person’s door and force them to leave the country, and to start to do it at a pretty massive scale, whatever they can raise up the manpower for.

    This isn’t the first time I’ve seen this. Why do they fantasize sometimes about “deporting” anyone who makes them unhappy? Even if they’re not Hispanic or any sort of immigrant, legal or illegal?

    They didn’t arrive at the word at random. There’s a specific pattern of thoughts that makes them start reaching for the idea of deporting her, instead of charging her with a particular crime or anything like that. And there’s a specific type of law enforcement agency and justice system that’s generally in charge of deportation proceedings, that is different from the normal structures of civilian law enforcement and a jury of your peers.

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      Marianne was born in the USA. They are going to put people in camps before they deport them. I suspect they will function as slaves for these camps.

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      It’s feels like it’s because deep down they all know ‘deport’ means ‘forced work camp’ since no country will actually take them.

      It’s so transparent and yet so few really do pause on this moment and understand the severity of what this means for this kind of talk to be normalized so soon. For a Seig Heil to be normalized so soon and excused as “misunderstood.” They have no principles, none, there is no bottom and they find a perverse joy in hurting those they have power over.

      People need to be aware of just how deep in this we are.

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        Yeah. I think the predictable trajectory of “We deported all the Mexicans, oh no who will work the fields for $10/hr, oh wait we have all these prisoners, problem solved, oh wait we don’t have enough prisoners” needs to be getting talked about a lot more than it is.

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          That will only happen when they run out of children for labor. Republicans in Iowa, for instance, want to lower the fine for child labor from an already low $10k down to $2500.

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            Even children you have to pay. Prisoners are 100% cheaper, and also don’t come with any health and safety limitations. You can just send them out in the hot sun without much water, and if they die, you have more.

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      Private prisons in the US are already work camps. They will just become a lot more concentrated when all the immigrants have to be housed there. Not as a final solution of course. That comes later.

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        Mostly people died in the camps of disease and the general lack of care for human life requirements. There were some specific death camps, but there were way more work camps, about 30,000 in total.

        Anne Frank wasn’t gassed “on purpose,” she died of typhus.

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      Why do they fantasize sometimes about “deporting” anyone who makes them unhappy? Even if they’re not Hispanic or any sort of immigrant, legal or illegal?

      Because they want to define what it means to be American. That definition conveniently includes themselves and people who think like them, and excludes Others.

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        Correct. You broke the code.

        They are defining “American” as anyone who’s on their team, and anyone not on their team as “not American,” and in parallel to that they’re setting up specific and powerful systems to punish people who aren’t real Americans.

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      If he’s allowed to eliminate parts of the 14th Amendment, none of this really matters anymore because that means he can eliminate any part of the Constitution, which means the Constitution becomes completely worthless.

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    Honestly, how dare a religious leader preach mercy? xD

    The irony of this whole situation is insane. Republicans get horny for ‘free speech’ but then when someone says something they don’t like, they want them deported. Trump wants to instil religious values in the country, except when those values don’t match up his agenda. What a weird time we live in.

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      Trump wants to instil religious values in the country,

      He doesn’t and never did. He doesn’t give a shit about Christianity, he didn’t even touch the Bible at the inauguration. Leaning on the “family Christian values” thing was just a campaign crutch both for him and the rest of the GOP to turn out voters for fascism.

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      It’s almost as if the cornerstone of the GOP is hypocrisy… Almost…

      ;)

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    Fox News and Mike Collins want her deported? She was born in New Jersey. They seem to want to “deport” anyone they don’t like.

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    I thought he was the good Christian man that all the pious needed to vote for to save Amerixa? Did my state’s “Christian Voter’s Guide” lie to me???

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    Did Trump have anything to say about the Nazi salute, or just the inclusivity message?