• BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one
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    9 days ago

    What is the meta message that this painting is trying to convey? Someone please help me understand.

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        9 days ago

        Yes, both things that you said are apparent at surface value, and i can also see that.

        What message is it trying to convey that is not supposed to be apparent?

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          It really is that simple, and it’s a foundational tenet of post-modernist art, recognizing and emphasizing the distinction between images and the reality they depict:

          (Fun Fact; Fascists hate modernism and post-modernism for this reason. Their ideology idolizes certain images and aesthetics as being representative of a greater truth and seeks to reify them by forcing reality to align with their preconceptions. Acknowledging that what we see isn’t the nature of the thing being seen (or in the modernist sense, that there is more than one valid perspective on any subject) would mean admitting that the golden age of the past that they seek to return to is also just an image and not reality. https://www.re-thinkingthefuture.com/architectural-styles/a2941-the-rejection-of-modern-art-as-a-form-of-fascism/ )

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            8 days ago

            Fascists hate modernism and post-modernism for this reason.

            They might not like the art, but with the post-truth blatancy fascism has definitely embraced a core aspect of post modernism lately. It’s not pretty nor clever.

    • dantheclamman@lemmy.worldOPM
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      It is a picture of a pipe, and while it conjures our memories and conceptualization of a pipe, it is, of course, merely a painting of one. Yet there is also the argument that when we see a physical pipe in person, it is only our “mind’s eye” view of a pipe that makes it a pipe. So, in some ways the difference between art and the “real world” is arbitrary. You can carry this as deep (as many layers of meta) or as shallow as you like, and that’s why the painting has inspired such a timeless continuing discussion over the decades of the meaning and significance of art.