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    1 month ago

    She was the VP, and who else did Democrats have? They didn’t primary and changed horses at the last minute… They had no one built up for it and little time to do it

    I didn’t even hear very much about her being black or a woman - Trump took some shots, and they tried that angle on Fox and such, but most of that fell flat. They ended up calling her a communist and running on the economy - it seems extremely telling

    Honestly, she did great until her advisors told her to ease up on the rhetoric and attacks, and basically crippled her already watered form political positions to the point it was “we’re going to do good things in a nuanced way, but we’re not going to take firm stands”

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        1 month ago

        You mean the guy who dropped out?

        Biden won on basically not being Trump… That strategy only works when Trump is still in office. Public memory is short, shit is fucked and people want change desperately. Billionaires control the media, and they managed to convince enough people that Trump would be good for them (whether financially, religiously, or because they’re racist)

        And let’s not forget, Trump barely won, no matter what he says. Between voter suppression and the manipulation we know of, that margin is razor thin - districts called it long before they finished counting votes

        It would have been a blow out if the Democratic party wasn’t fucking around. Obama won on “change”, and didn’t deliver… People are so desperate for something different and the Democratic party is actively resisting the demands of their own supporters, let alone the people

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            I agree, but I don’t think we have 4 years. It took like 2 weeks for things to start falling apart, a month to dismantle all of our global soft power, and probably like 6 months for people to start dying in the streets. Our economy is collapsing, and with it the global economy

            Bird flu could make the jump at any point too… Cutting regulations and public health funding is basically breeding another pandemic. Hell, honestly we might not even know it’s happening until we have a whistleblower

            On the plus side, we’ve got constant protests, Europe is stepping up in a big way, and Trump has hurt right wing causes across the globe. We’ve got maga people screaming to get Musk out of the white house, Republicans and Democrats alike are booing their representatives for not doing something, and Trump looks like he’s rapidly aging. Billionaires who handed Trump the presidency control the media, and you know what most people aren’t seeing? The daily speeches trump is making, weirdly turning everything into something about real estate development. People hate Vance - Trump seems to be setting musk or his son up to be his successor, but they’re pretty universally hated too

            We’re over the cliff - the pax America is over, there’s no going back. Things are going to get rough, things are going to get complicated, but an end is a new beginning. Maybe we can start building something better. I think we will. To me, the only question is how many people will die along the way, how long will we have to endure this slow (but now pretty fast) decline before we get past this

            Or maybe this is just the end for our species. Either way, I don’t think there’s a “next time” in 4 years… There’s no going back. Only forward, into the unknown

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                Nah, we’re in late stage capitalism - the economy is divorced from reality, the way we measure it ie basically based on speculation. And the effects haven’t had time to ripple through yet, that’ll take months

                And yeah, we have people dying in the streets and people locked up… But this isn’t remotely at the same scale. This is like at least one person you know will be a victim here on average… This is old people in the suburbs dying on the sidewalk. This is tons more people living in their car, this is people being pushed to crime to survive en mass

                It’s hard to explain how bad things are going to get… This isn’t more of the same, this is going to be much less abstract for most people

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                    History is written by the winners… Every history class we get is written through the lens of “capitalism is the only option”

                    The great depression is exactly where to look… Let me put together some facts you probably know in a new way

                    What was the new deal? It was wealth redistribution. Job creation en masse through government programs (to do basically busywork at times), sociatal safety nets, worker protections… Sound familiar?

                    How did it play out? The establishment fought it every step of the way. America voted in younger and bolder representatives to both parties.

                    FDR won the election 4 times - until very recently he was said to be “the closest America has come to a king”. But he wasn’t… He was performing the will of the people, and that threatened the establishment. It took 2 generations to slowly dismantle what he put in place

                    And on the other note… Billionaires can’t build a utopia. They can’t build a company, let alone a city state. They’re genuinely dumber than normal people - they don’t ever build things. They invest in others, the ideas never come from them. They are the manifestations of the financial empire that is a billionaire, they too are prisoners of their own wealth