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She was the VP, and who else did Democrats have? They didn’t primary and changed horses at the last minute… They had no one built up for it and little time to do it
I didn’t even hear very much about her being black or a woman - Trump took some shots, and they tried that angle on Fox and such, but most of that fell flat. They ended up calling her a communist and running on the economy - it seems extremely telling
Honestly, she did great until her advisors told her to ease up on the rhetoric and attacks, and basically crippled her already watered form political positions to the point it was “we’re going to do good things in a nuanced way, but we’re not going to take firm stands”
The guy who was running as VP? Honestly any white guy who didn’t have too many skeletons in the closet. Doesn’t really matter, just another boring white guy. Hold ground in the worst times, push ahead in the better times.
Biden won on basically not being Trump… That strategy only works when Trump is still in office. Public memory is short, shit is fucked and people want change desperately. Billionaires control the media, and they managed to convince enough people that Trump would be good for them (whether financially, religiously, or because they’re racist)
And let’s not forget, Trump barely won, no matter what he says. Between voter suppression and the manipulation we know of, that margin is razor thin - districts called it long before they finished counting votes
It would have been a blow out if the Democratic party wasn’t fucking around. Obama won on “change”, and didn’t deliver… People are so desperate for something different and the Democratic party is actively resisting the demands of their own supporters, let alone the people
Agreed, and look at Bernie, he’s an OAP and even now people are energised by him. I’d back him, even if he’s another old white guy. AOC for VP and maybe she can follow him into the presidency. 8 years of stability and actually making the world better. Well, I can dream.
One thing seems clear - MAGA are the popular movement still and it’s looking like they’re going to ride the trump train right off a cliff. Europe is basically done with the US at this point and things will never be the same. It feels a bit like a kid who’s been a bit sheltered and now faces the harsh realities of the world.
The left needs a popular movement which can grab people who aren’t the typical ‘woke’ voters, it needs broad appeal and to bring hope of real change and energy. I think the dems are more the adults in the room but they’re boring and kind of academic, like they can convince people by seeming smart. They want charisma and to relate to a politician.
I also think that people have to normalise unions in every workplace, normalise collective bargaining for every worker. This is how people can realise that solidarity is the way - divisiveness has to end or the human race is done. Trusting billionaires and/or sociopaths over neighbours / other regular human beings has to end.
People like to feel protected and as though someone knows what they’re doing and has a roadmap. I think that’s why they go for trump. If the left could develop a coherent answer to the problems the world is facing and give that message with a down to earth, convincing and appealing energy, I think that would work and give people what they need.
I agree, but I don’t think we have 4 years. It took like 2 weeks for things to start falling apart, a month to dismantle all of our global soft power, and probably like 6 months for people to start dying in the streets. Our economy is collapsing, and with it the global economy
Bird flu could make the jump at any point too… Cutting regulations and public health funding is basically breeding another pandemic. Hell, honestly we might not even know it’s happening until we have a whistleblower
On the plus side, we’ve got constant protests, Europe is stepping up in a big way, and Trump has hurt right wing causes across the globe. We’ve got maga people screaming to get Musk out of the white house, Republicans and Democrats alike are booing their representatives for not doing something, and Trump looks like he’s rapidly aging. Billionaires who handed Trump the presidency control the media, and you know what most people aren’t seeing? The daily speeches trump is making, weirdly turning everything into something about real estate development. People hate Vance - Trump seems to be setting musk or his son up to be his successor, but they’re pretty universally hated too
We’re over the cliff - the pax America is over, there’s no going back. Things are going to get rough, things are going to get complicated, but an end is a new beginning. Maybe we can start building something better. I think we will. To me, the only question is how many people will die along the way, how long will we have to endure this slow (but now pretty fast) decline before we get past this
Or maybe this is just the end for our species. Either way, I don’t think there’s a “next time” in 4 years… There’s no going back. Only forward, into the unknown
Maybe he’ll be impeached if the economy tanks badly enough… Tbh I don’t understand how it hasn’t yet… Maybe his wealthy supporters are keeping things artificially stable.
He lied his way through covid and unless bird flu killed lots of young people I think he’d lie his way through that, or make it a religious punishment and just blame/ ban homosexuals or something. The MAGA cultists are never going to make him accountable for anything.
The bad thing about America is that people are already dying in the streets, homelessness is normal… Huge amounts of people locked up. So I guess it won’t seem so shocking when that increases.
Nah, we’re in late stage capitalism - the economy is divorced from reality, the way we measure it ie basically based on speculation. And the effects haven’t had time to ripple through yet, that’ll take months
And yeah, we have people dying in the streets and people locked up… But this isn’t remotely at the same scale. This is like at least one person you know will be a victim here on average… This is old people in the suburbs dying on the sidewalk. This is tons more people living in their car, this is people being pushed to crime to survive en mass
It’s hard to explain how bad things are going to get… This isn’t more of the same, this is going to be much less abstract for most people
She was the VP, and who else did Democrats have? They didn’t primary and changed horses at the last minute… They had no one built up for it and little time to do it
I didn’t even hear very much about her being black or a woman - Trump took some shots, and they tried that angle on Fox and such, but most of that fell flat. They ended up calling her a communist and running on the economy - it seems extremely telling
Honestly, she did great until her advisors told her to ease up on the rhetoric and attacks, and basically crippled her already watered form political positions to the point it was “we’re going to do good things in a nuanced way, but we’re not going to take firm stands”
The guy who was running as VP? Honestly any white guy who didn’t have too many skeletons in the closet. Doesn’t really matter, just another boring white guy. Hold ground in the worst times, push ahead in the better times.
You mean the guy who dropped out?
Biden won on basically not being Trump… That strategy only works when Trump is still in office. Public memory is short, shit is fucked and people want change desperately. Billionaires control the media, and they managed to convince enough people that Trump would be good for them (whether financially, religiously, or because they’re racist)
And let’s not forget, Trump barely won, no matter what he says. Between voter suppression and the manipulation we know of, that margin is razor thin - districts called it long before they finished counting votes
It would have been a blow out if the Democratic party wasn’t fucking around. Obama won on “change”, and didn’t deliver… People are so desperate for something different and the Democratic party is actively resisting the demands of their own supporters, let alone the people
Agreed, and look at Bernie, he’s an OAP and even now people are energised by him. I’d back him, even if he’s another old white guy. AOC for VP and maybe she can follow him into the presidency. 8 years of stability and actually making the world better. Well, I can dream.
One thing seems clear - MAGA are the popular movement still and it’s looking like they’re going to ride the trump train right off a cliff. Europe is basically done with the US at this point and things will never be the same. It feels a bit like a kid who’s been a bit sheltered and now faces the harsh realities of the world.
The left needs a popular movement which can grab people who aren’t the typical ‘woke’ voters, it needs broad appeal and to bring hope of real change and energy. I think the dems are more the adults in the room but they’re boring and kind of academic, like they can convince people by seeming smart. They want charisma and to relate to a politician.
I also think that people have to normalise unions in every workplace, normalise collective bargaining for every worker. This is how people can realise that solidarity is the way - divisiveness has to end or the human race is done. Trusting billionaires and/or sociopaths over neighbours / other regular human beings has to end.
People like to feel protected and as though someone knows what they’re doing and has a roadmap. I think that’s why they go for trump. If the left could develop a coherent answer to the problems the world is facing and give that message with a down to earth, convincing and appealing energy, I think that would work and give people what they need.
I agree, but I don’t think we have 4 years. It took like 2 weeks for things to start falling apart, a month to dismantle all of our global soft power, and probably like 6 months for people to start dying in the streets. Our economy is collapsing, and with it the global economy
Bird flu could make the jump at any point too… Cutting regulations and public health funding is basically breeding another pandemic. Hell, honestly we might not even know it’s happening until we have a whistleblower
On the plus side, we’ve got constant protests, Europe is stepping up in a big way, and Trump has hurt right wing causes across the globe. We’ve got maga people screaming to get Musk out of the white house, Republicans and Democrats alike are booing their representatives for not doing something, and Trump looks like he’s rapidly aging. Billionaires who handed Trump the presidency control the media, and you know what most people aren’t seeing? The daily speeches trump is making, weirdly turning everything into something about real estate development. People hate Vance - Trump seems to be setting musk or his son up to be his successor, but they’re pretty universally hated too
We’re over the cliff - the pax America is over, there’s no going back. Things are going to get rough, things are going to get complicated, but an end is a new beginning. Maybe we can start building something better. I think we will. To me, the only question is how many people will die along the way, how long will we have to endure this slow (but now pretty fast) decline before we get past this
Or maybe this is just the end for our species. Either way, I don’t think there’s a “next time” in 4 years… There’s no going back. Only forward, into the unknown
Maybe he’ll be impeached if the economy tanks badly enough… Tbh I don’t understand how it hasn’t yet… Maybe his wealthy supporters are keeping things artificially stable.
He lied his way through covid and unless bird flu killed lots of young people I think he’d lie his way through that, or make it a religious punishment and just blame/ ban homosexuals or something. The MAGA cultists are never going to make him accountable for anything.
The bad thing about America is that people are already dying in the streets, homelessness is normal… Huge amounts of people locked up. So I guess it won’t seem so shocking when that increases.
Nah, we’re in late stage capitalism - the economy is divorced from reality, the way we measure it ie basically based on speculation. And the effects haven’t had time to ripple through yet, that’ll take months
And yeah, we have people dying in the streets and people locked up… But this isn’t remotely at the same scale. This is like at least one person you know will be a victim here on average… This is old people in the suburbs dying on the sidewalk. This is tons more people living in their car, this is people being pushed to crime to survive en mass
It’s hard to explain how bad things are going to get… This isn’t more of the same, this is going to be much less abstract for most people