• Hegar@fedia.io
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    11 days ago

    I have very little time for people who try to blame voters for a fascist coup engineered by US and russian elites.

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      I don’t know man, that shit (fascism) was out in the OPEN since at least Jan 6.

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        Fascism is a disease that humans are unfortunately susceptible to, especially when deprived of resources and education.

        I would no more blame trump voters enmasse than I would blame the addicts huddled under bridges for the horrors of the drug trade.

        The people to blame are those benefiting by exploiting the weaknesses of the human animal that make the lies of fascism seem appealing.

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          I don’t recognize the need to identify the people to blame. There are multiple parties with various degrees of culpability. Yes, the primary blame lies with people who orchestrated the exploitation. But blame also lies with those who fell for such and obvious grift, and those who didn’t vote, and those who voted third party out of protest.

          Concentrating all blame on one party without nuance is exactly the tribalist nonsense that powers fascism.

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            Since you are so concerned about 3rd party voters, surely you are working to do away with First Past The Post voting in your state so people can vote outside the two party system without a spoiler effect.

            How is the effort to pass electoral reform going in your state?

            If you’re still unsure about changing the voting system and expanding democracy instead of suppressing it, I will leave you a bunch of videos to help you make up your mind. I’m sure you support democracy and will see that this is the way forward. Not forcing people to vote for your preference, which is not democracy.

            Videos on Electoral Reform

            First Past The Post voting (What most states use now)

            Videos on alternative electoral systems we can try out.

            STAR voting

            Alternative vote

            Ranked Choice voting

            Range Voting

            Single Transferable Vote

            Mixed Member Proportional representation

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              Since you are so concerned about 3rd party voters, surely you are working to do away with First Past The Post voting in your state so people can vote outside the two party system without a spoiler effect.

              That’s the hope, yeah. I’m all for voting third party in a system where it actually makes sense to do so, we’re just not there yet.

              How is the effort to pass electoral reform going in your state?

              Extremely poorly, unfortunately.

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          You know, if there is a war against the nazis, and we win, I will straight up go AWOL in order to brutally execute these nazis. I will not let a single one get away this time, no more deals, no more mercy.

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        Yeah the state has been supporting genocide for like 1.5 years. It’s almost like fascism is a fundamental part of this evil empire and not just a “one party” problem.

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      11 days ago

      I blame capitalism, the voters, and fascist rich fucks. Sure the trump voters were manipulated but it’s like they didn’t even try to think critically for a second.

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      The power of media saturation can’t be understated. Bezos owns the WaPo, Musk owns Twitter, Gates owns NBC, the Murdochs and the Coors Family and The Kochs and the Sinclairs have a strangle hold on local news.

      Literally where do you go to get serious journalism in an age where WikiLeaks is a criminal enterprise and The Espionage Act has been invoked against more journalists in the last fifteen years than the prior fifty.

      Blaming voters in an era of industrial misinformation seems wildly misguided. You have people utterly saturated in war propaganda and blood libel. Even the liberals don’t know who to support anymore.