• SpooneyOdin@lemmy.ml
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      1 year ago

      More than one thing can be wrong at the same time. The constant whataboutism is exhausting…

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      1 year ago

      Imagine thinking any large state isn’t constantly injecting propaganda into the Internet. Couldn’t be me.

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          What I said was that people in the west are subjected to orders of magnitude of western propaganda, and perhaps should worry about that first.

          I’m capable of worrying about two things. Perhaps even three on a good day.

          Chomsky even pointed out recently that censorship in the west now is even worse than it was in USSR.

          Media being bad because capitalism pushes them to do evil to further their own ends is not the same thing as censorship enforced with state violence. These are both bad things, but uniquely bad in their own ways. I’m sad that Chomsky’s age has caught up to him and he can no longer distinguish the two.

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              When people talk about censorship, they usually mean of media. Yes, I’m aware that the US government is an evil institution that targets activists and whistleblowers. You’ll never believe me, but I actually despise my government and nearly every person in it. However, authoritarian regimes also strike down those people, but additionally censor the media on top of it. So to say that state censorship is worse here and now is just asinine. There’s no need to make things up to seem worse than they are when they’re already very bad, it just leads to people swinging at ghosts.

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                  Every government is authoritarian by its very nature. The government derives authority from having monopoly on legalized violence.

                  For goodness’ sake, can we not do this? I’m an anarchist, I know this. I oppose the state on a conceptual level for this very reason. I’m speaking to you like a normal person using language that I know you understood the intended meaning of. There’s no need to engage in academic fartsniffery here. Just be normal.

                  The only reason there is the illusion of freedom of speech is due to the fact that mainstream views are carefully curated.

                  The owners of our media have a vested interest in maintaining their own control. They are not compelled to act by outside force, they largely act of their own free will to maintain their position in our corrupt system. Understanding this distinction is crucial to being able to fix it. This is the true insidious nature of our system, at this point it is maintained by people pursuing their own interests rather than by an overarching plot. There’s no need for one anymore, it is self-sustaining and perpetuating, like a cancer.