Donald Trump has said Vladimir Putin was “doing what anybody would do” after Russia launched a massive missile and drone strike on Ukraine days after the US cut off vital intelligence and military aid to Kyiv.

Speaking to reporters in the Oval Office on Friday Trump said he finds it “easier” to work with Russia than Ukraine and that Putin “wants to end the war”.

“I’m finding it more difficult, frankly, to deal with Ukraine. And they don’t have the cards,” Trump said. “In terms of getting a final settlement, it may be easier dealing with Russia.”

Asked whether the Russian leader was taking advantage of the pause in US intelligence sharing and military aid to Ukraine, Trump replied: “I actually think he is doing what anybody else would do.”

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    You mean terms like „I‘ll stop hurting you if you give me more land and don‘t ask for help from the west.“?

    Give me a break!

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        Nope, Ukraine would have kept all of its land had they accepted Putin’s offer in 2022. Even the status of Crimea was to be negotiable after 10-15 years.

        Right, but Crimea is Ukraine’s land which Russia invaded and stole in 2014. So that’s not letting Ukraine have all its land is it? It’s letting Ukraine keep bits of land you haven’t stolen yet. Can you see how that might not seem very reasonable?

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            Ukraine underwent a violent coup against the democratically elected government

            Yanukovych was a Putin puppet that turned armed forces against unarmed civilians. The armed forces themselves turned on Yanukovych. That tells you how bad he was for Ukraine. If you’re looking for Yanukovych now, you’ll find him in Russia. I wonder why…

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        And what would Ukraine have to give Putin in return? The thing is Putin started the war! Putin started the war because Ukraine was daring to enter NATO which you could literally only hate if you actually wanted to fuck with some country!

        Putins offer can be boiled down to „If you don‘t tattle to the teacher, i will stop punching you. Perhaps i could give you back your iPod when you graduate high school if you ask me nicely then.“

        What the fuck is that kind of a bullshit deal? This could only be beaten if another bully agrees with the first bully to take your phone and leave the iPod and both of them will not beat them into the hospital. Oh wait…

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            Ukraine was to cease NATO membership plans; downsize its military forces; forbid foreign countries from hosting military bases; and pay reparations.

            That’s none of Putin’s fucking business. Ukraine is a sovereign country that can make its own decisions about its future. If your bullshit reasoning is reasonable, if Putin takes Ukraine fully are you justifying Putin invading Poland and Romania for being in NATO with foreign miltary bases too?

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            NATO looked like the next coming of the Axis powers to Russia and can you blame them?

            Yes?

            And as for the rest: Putin has a long and sordid history of ignoring treaties with former parts of the USSR. He dangles the carrot and then hits with the stick if any of the soviet states actually try to eat it.

            Russia wants Ukraine to become another Belarus or Georgia. Ukraine does not want that. Ukraine is a sovereign nation and does not want to invade Russia or take its land. Neither does NATO.

            After that, your argument completely falls apart. It’s no more than the excuse, but has no grounding in reality.

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                You don’t get out much, do you?

                The only place that narrative is still accepted is inside Russia.

                Oh, and it’s not a civil war when one of the combatants is significantly made up of foreigners from Russia.

                Next thing you know, you’ll be saying that Ukraine is really just a disputed Russian territory because they rejected their democratically elected Russian selected leader.

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                    I’m curious: what’s your opinion on China’s continually improving relationship with Kazakhstan, and their plans to sever ties with Russia and become a full fledged partner in the belt and road?

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            TLDR: Russia would have allowed Ukraine to invoke Article 5 if invaded but not base NATO weapons and soldiers during peacetime that can be used for offensive purposes.

            In other words, he would have allowed them to draw NATO into a conflict, but not to do anything to deter actual aggression or make it possible for NATO to fight effectively if called upon to do so. And any such conditions would violate Ukraine’s sovereignty. Free countries can ally themselves with whoever they want to.