Donald Trump has said Vladimir Putin was “doing what anybody would do” after Russia launched a massive missile and drone strike on Ukraine days after the US cut off vital intelligence and military aid to Kyiv.
Speaking to reporters in the Oval Office on Friday Trump said he finds it “easier” to work with Russia than Ukraine and that Putin “wants to end the war”.
“I’m finding it more difficult, frankly, to deal with Ukraine. And they don’t have the cards,” Trump said. “In terms of getting a final settlement, it may be easier dealing with Russia.”
Asked whether the Russian leader was taking advantage of the pause in US intelligence sharing and military aid to Ukraine, Trump replied: “I actually think he is doing what anybody else would do.”
Guy would have sided with Hitler. Why won’t Britain surrender, Hitler just wants to end the war!
So 9/11 was what now? What a fucktard.
The guy calling for peace thinks it is okay for anyone to want to continue the violence. Fucking brilliant.
Traitors one and all and history will remember them as such. I’m Canadian and as angry as I am about the huge mess happening between my country and the USA, I’m even angrier about Ukraine. At least Canadians aren’t being killed or having tens of thousands of our children stolen away. I cannot understand the eagerness with which MAGA has embraced Putin. Looking at history until now, I never thought siding with a dictatorial warmongering Russia would be a core Republican value.
Just what a Russian stooge would say.
I mean, if Putin just wants to stop fighting, he could completely just you know: stop fucking fighting.
He’s the invader. He’s the fucking aggressor. Ukraine would happily stop fighting as they don’t want to fight.
Donald Trump is top tier fucking stupid and top tier Russian asset.
Everyone who believes this shit is a victim of severe brainwashing. Nobody, not even an actual mental retard, would believe what Trump and putin are saying. It’s because Trump followers are victims of brainwashing. They are mentally ill.
Russia almost cannot “stop” if it means getting nothing. If they do Putin will lose support and money from his oligarchs/bitches.
If they do Putin will lose support and money from his oligarchs/bitches.
That’s Putin’s problem. Let him join the defenstration-fest, the bloodthirsty greedhead, and Trump with him.
I actually thought we should’ve had Putin assassinated years ago, but nobody cares what I think. I’m just an asshole who got kicked off of Reddit 
you forget that people like that have literal legions that their sole job is to protect a persons life. not just bodyguards, but intelligence agents who’s sole job it is , is to prepare for any kind of credible threat.
and remember russia is a country that has an entire militarized police force that its only real job, is to keep the boot on the neck of not the people, but the russian military, so that they dont get any funny ideas about revolting.
Would he, though?
I mean, if Putin just wants to stop fighting, he could completely just you know: stop fucking fighting.
I cannot imagine a world in which Russia withdraws from the front lines and Ukrainian militants just call it a day. Way too much blood on the ground for people to just turn themselves off and call it done.
If Putin extended an offer that didn’t involve him eating the barrel of his own gun, Zelenskyy’s own guys would lynch him for taking it.
Well, obviously Ukraine would chase the invaders back to the pre-2014 borders and then stop.
That’s how wars always work. You stop at the other guy’s border because you’ve made your point.
Didn’t they just stop fighting in ww1 ? I don’t think its the same but not impossible. True Putin should retreat and leave the Ukrainian soil.
Stopping fighting is how most wars ended. It’s not a fucking cage match between two militaries that only ends after every person in one of the two militaries is dead.
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So, do you actually believe the stupid shit you’re saying, or are you getting paid for this?
do you actually believe the stupid shit you’re saying
Westerners only believe the stupid shit their domestic government tells them. Putin-shills only believe the stupid shit Putin tells them. So he’s clearly a Putin shill (or a bot or a Wumao, who can say?)
Obviously, Ukrainians must fight to the last man because Russia is run by exterminationists. But please don’t ask why Western hedge funds are salivating to get into Western Ukraine and claim all the formerly public land.
Putin meanwhile gave out very lenient peace terms in 2022
Putin invaded in 2014 seizing Crimea. Ukraine did not attack Russia.
Putin invaded Donbas and Luhansk just months later. Ukraine signed multiple peace deals which Putin violated at that time.
Putin performed a full scale invasion of Ukraine in Feb 2022.
Nothing about Putin has offered peace terms for Ukraine that Putin honors. He’ll keep violating any “peace” deals until he controls all of Ukraine or he’s dead.
So remind me again what happened in Donetsk and luhansk prior to Russia crossing the border?
It was at peace. That changed when Russian crossed the border as “little green men” unmarked Russian troops started the hot war there. Putin even admitted this was Russia:
“After two months of denial, on 17 April 2014, Russian president Vladimir Putin confirmed that the Russian military had been operating in Ukraine.[9][10] Furthermore, numerous sources, including Russian state-owned media, have confirmed that the little green men were a mix of operatives from the Special Operations Forces and various other units of the Spetsnaz GRU. It likely also included paratroopers of the 45th Guards Spetsnaz Brigade of the Russian Airborne Forces,[11][12][13] as well as mercenaries from the Russian state-funded Wagner Group.[14][15] While their status as soldiers acting under the orders of the Russian government was continually denied, their nationality was not. Alexander Borodai of the unrecognized Donetsk People’s Republic stated that 50,000 Russian citizens had fought in Ukraine’s Donbas by August 2015 and argued that they should receive the same benefits as Russia’s other war veterans, though he maintained that the Russian government did not send them.[16]” source
Casual genocide denial from I see. Not a single mentioned of the 15000 people killed by the fascist before that. Disgusting.
Casual genocide denial from I see.
That’s absolutely delicious considering you’re defending Russia and their actions in Ukraine. You have zero credibility. You want to see genocide, look in your own history and you’ll see what Russia did to Ukraine in the past with 3.5 million dead Ukrainians with the Holodomor.
And nations are now realizing that Trump doesn’t fall far from the tree. He just prefers assets to land.
He just prefers assets to land.
Make no mistake, Trump wants land too (and even more so the strategic power it affords, such as control of trade routes). That’s why he’s threatening to annex Greenland, the Panama canal zone, and Canada.
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Source for 1? And regarding 3, Minsk II was violated by Putin himself when he choose to invade Ukraine in February 2022 saying Ukraine committed genocide in Donbas with no proof of the same.
Russian troll, nothing to see here.
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Oh honey, you int fooling anyone.
Every fan of Putin I have ever met gave off, “my wife left me for another man,” vibes.
This post, in particular, radiates those vibes more than any other post of this category I have seen.
People often ask how you can tell if a particular post is one paid for by Putin himself, or by a true believer. The ones written by paid trolls aren’t as pathetic as this one is. They don’t make you feel sorry for the person writing it.
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I will let you draw the connection there, little buddy.
Begone, propagandist. Peace is elusive because the Russian government has engineered the situation to be so. That you think they were “likely” to drop an obvious showstopper clause means absolutely nothing; the actual parties to the negotiation clearly did not feel that to be true.
For others who want more insight on how the 2022 talks unfolded: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/06/15/world/europe/ukraine-russia-ceasefire-deal.html
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The russian apologist strikes again…
Well at least someone is apologizing; Russia doesn’t appear to have any intention to do so.
Remind me - how many times has Putin actually kept to the terms of a ceasefire? Cause that’s exactly what he’s known for.
In the end, we all know:
-Putin is an asshole
-Ukraine did not pose the slightest military threat, and were not the aggressors
So, when it comes down to it, fuck Putin and his so called “lenient” terms. Bruising Putin’s ego is not, in fact, a crime.
Everyone knows Putin will not settle for peace. He just wants to fix supply side issues to continue the offensive. You know this. It’s not that you don’t see the evil in that man; you defend it because you support it anyway.
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2 day old account spewing this dribble
Did Trump write this?
Too literate. This bozo at least writes at a high-school level.
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Then why are you writing like one?
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They’re being an apologist piece of shit, but it doesn’t justify ableism like that.
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The concern isn’t about them, but clearly you don’t care.
No one has been diagnosed retarded in like 70 years boss the only people taking offense to the phase are white knights looking to save a damsel. That’s no damsel, I’m no dragon so what’s the argument.
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No one cares Karen, you don’t get to feign indignation while you spew bullshit and apologize for murderous invaders.
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I suggest shutting the fuck up if your going to be thin skinned and a Nazi.
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Why does Trump think he has any say in a peace deal now that he ended support to Ukraine? It’s not up to him anymore. He chose to step down
Against an enemy who just lost funding and intelligence. No shit, you fucking psychopath.
Could he be more of a bitch to Putin? For all his egomaniacal fragile masculinity, he sure excels at being a submissive to Musk and Putin.
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Did the troll farms disappear for 2020 and 2024?
Nope.
2 days. That account you in the comments are arguing with is 2 days old.
Good observation.
From an American:
Hey Europe, fucking pay attention. We are switching sides. Pax Americana is done. This isn’t the country you thought you knew. We’re going to walk noisy as fuck and carry a stick we’ve whittled away because we wanted to sell parts off of it.
Please don’t assume that everything is going to be alright. It’s not. I don’t want to see you guys go down with us.
There will be some struggles but nobody is going down, there is a big difference between trying to overthrow a government and actually doing it
I hope you’re right, but it’s not looking promising.
It’s early days; very easy to assume things will remain mostly the same but with higher prices, and supply issues. Maybe the odd disease?
I don’t think many people understand how the USA works, and keeps itself together, I don’t. Obviously there is inertia that going to keep things more or less stable.
But if a system is stressed and then something else happens, totally out of left field, history is just filled to the brim of unlucky coincidences affecting large swathes of peoples
higher prices, and supply issues. Maybe the odd disease?
That’s what I meant by struggles
You make it sound like the US will be completely erased from existence, that’s not how reality works, countries don’t just disappear, they change and sometimes into multiple smaller countries but they’re the same people and I think that’s the most important defining factor of a country.
I agree that such a change will have a negative short term impact but if everybody goes to protests, apply civil disobedience and maybe a general strike the risk of violence goes way the fuck down and the only dangers are the ones from lack of resources and rapid spread of illness but these will be fixed long term
Nice 2 day account you got there
I wouldn’t do it. But then again I’m not a fascist imperialist dictator with delusions of grandeur.
“I’m finding it more difficult, frankly, to deal with Ukraine. And they don’t have the cards,” Trump said. “In terms of getting a final settlement, it may be easier dealing with Russia.”
It’s infuriating how stupid he is. Just “my feelings tell me to do X” nonstop, every day, like cultured cells responding to a stimulus shock.
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You mean terms like „I‘ll stop hurting you if you give me more land and don‘t ask for help from the west.“?
Give me a break!
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Nope, Ukraine would have kept all of its land had they accepted Putin’s offer in 2022. Even the status of Crimea was to be negotiable after 10-15 years.
Right, but Crimea is Ukraine’s land which Russia invaded and stole in 2014. So that’s not letting Ukraine have all its land is it? It’s letting Ukraine keep bits of land you haven’t stolen yet. Can you see how that might not seem very reasonable?
Ukraine was at peace in 2014 before Russia invaded. The only reason there is not peace is because of Putin.
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Ukraine underwent a violent coup against the democratically elected government
Yanukovych was a Putin puppet that turned armed forces against unarmed civilians. The armed forces themselves turned on Yanukovych. That tells you how bad he was for Ukraine. If you’re looking for Yanukovych now, you’ll find him in Russia. I wonder why…
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And what would Ukraine have to give Putin in return? The thing is Putin started the war! Putin started the war because Ukraine was daring to enter NATO which you could literally only hate if you actually wanted to fuck with some country!
Putins offer can be boiled down to „If you don‘t tattle to the teacher, i will stop punching you. Perhaps i could give you back your iPod when you graduate high school if you ask me nicely then.“
What the fuck is that kind of a bullshit deal? This could only be beaten if another bully agrees with the first bully to take your phone and leave the iPod and both of them will not beat them into the hospital. Oh wait…
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Ukraine was to cease NATO membership plans; downsize its military forces; forbid foreign countries from hosting military bases; and pay reparations.
That’s none of Putin’s fucking business. Ukraine is a sovereign country that can make its own decisions about its future. If your bullshit reasoning is reasonable, if Putin takes Ukraine fully are you justifying Putin invading Poland and Romania for being in NATO with foreign miltary bases too?
It doesn’t have to make sense, it’s the firehose of bullshit.
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NATO looked like the next coming of the Axis powers to Russia and can you blame them?
Yes?
And as for the rest: Putin has a long and sordid history of ignoring treaties with former parts of the USSR. He dangles the carrot and then hits with the stick if any of the soviet states actually try to eat it.
Russia wants Ukraine to become another Belarus or Georgia. Ukraine does not want that. Ukraine is a sovereign nation and does not want to invade Russia or take its land. Neither does NATO.
After that, your argument completely falls apart. It’s no more than the excuse, but has no grounding in reality.
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TLDR: Russia would have allowed Ukraine to invoke Article 5 if invaded but not base NATO weapons and soldiers during peacetime that can be used for offensive purposes.
In other words, he would have allowed them to draw NATO into a conflict, but not to do anything to deter actual aggression or make it possible for NATO to fight effectively if called upon to do so. And any such conditions would violate Ukraine’s sovereignty. Free countries can ally themselves with whoever they want to.
Reparations for being invaded…
Oh, so it’s Zelenskyy’s fault for continuing to resist aggression. Victim-blame much?
Simply put, the Russians can’t be trusted to honor any agreement that’s not backed up by force. Their “terms” aren’t worth the paper they’re printed on. They’ve never honored any agreement they’ve made with Ukraine, and as long as Putin is in power they never will.
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Except, again, there’s no reason to believe that Russia was negotiating in good faith, and it sounds like the inclusion of security guarantees from the West is one of the reasons the talks broke down.
Again, Russia has broken basically every treaty and agreement they’ve ever made with Ukraine.
https://thedispatch.com/article/russia-history-broken-treaties-agreements/?signup=success
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I think you’re going to keep finding reasons why it’s Ukraine’s fault no matter what I or anyone say!s! I won’t waste any more time on this. The fact remains that Russia has broken pretty much every agreement they’ve ever struck with Ukraine since at least 2014, and Ukraine has zero incentive to enter into a new one without the force to ensure it’s followed. Their only choice is to try and wear Russia down with prolonged conflict.
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Easier to work with Putin ? Wow.
I mean, yeah. Putin wants the US to do nothing and give them Ukraine, Ukraine wants the US to stay committed to past agreements and do something.
He has the cards and by cards I mean kompromat.
If you’re evil, maybe.
