German sales were down by a massive 76.3% last month, with Australia posting a similar 71.9% decline

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    3 days ago

    I don’t really care who runs a company. That never factors into my decisions.

    But i’ll NEVER own an EV because they are cars for morons. When hydrogen cars are the norm i’ll stop buying diesel cars.

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      2 days ago

      Defend your position, dipshit.

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        Hydrogen is the real fuel of the future. It’s 100% clean, abundant and takes as long to refuel as a petrol car.

        As soon as they work out storage and transport of hydrogen cost effectively it’s game over for fossil fuels and conventional EVs.

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            2 days ago

            What’s that got to do with it. An ICE will last a LOT longer that your batteries.

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              I was talking about hydrogen. It’s not a fuel. It is not abundant. It literally escapes the earth completely when released into the atmosphere. Stuff containing hydrogen is abundant, not the same thing, because the hydrogen has already given up its energy to get there. Hydrogen has to be manufactured, possibly through electrolysis (putting in more energy than burning the hydrogen back into water) or, as is much more common and cheaper… made from fossil fuels.

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          No, it really isn’t. It’s not abundant in accessible forms without using a shit ton of energy and rare metals.

          Storage will never be solved. Even if magically we could compress it to a reasonable volume and kept the tank small, it’s still a literal bomb inside of a car. A bomb that can explode twice, and much bigger than gas, diesel, or batteries.

          Hydrogen will never be a reality because we will just keep using gas and diesel, with emissions filters, making them very clean. Its conservative propaganda that’s been around my entire life that the next evil progressive is gonna ban ICE cars. So they weirdly started drinking the kool-aid about hydrogen.

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            Hydrogen is abundant with abundant renewables. Electrolysis is only/best by far path to unlimited renewables and unlimited energy.

            It’s not a reason to avoid EVs for personal use now, as they are getting pretty good, but FC range extenders will be available eventually. Commercial vehicles need the range and refueling speed. Only countries that stop hating China can hope for H2 economy, because US dominated countries will be sabotaged from cheap renewables and electrolysis.

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          2 days ago

          I dare you to say that to a Mirai driver’s face.

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      “they are cars for morons” - person who cannot rely on themselves to plug in their car overnight