Man… Imagine actually losing a child, and then seeing this man call his daughter dead simply because she is trans.
It’s actually an unbelievably awful and sad thought… And it’s not hypothetical. It’s very real.
This is my first thought and is another level of awful on this shit sundae. Trans rights are a whole separate conversation. Let’s start with the fact that some people do lose their children and would do ANYTHING to have them back for one fucking day. A father who buried their child would be well within their rights to beat the ever loving shit out of Elon for this post.
NO. No they fucking didn’t die. What YOU did was decide you’d rather have a dead son than a living daughter. What YOU decided was your child wasn’t worth it. That you didn’t love them enough to learn anything or change your fucking mind.
It’s even worse than that. He’s lying. According to Vivian, he didn’t give a shit that she was trans until he turned alt-right. Now he’s trying to use that to score points with his new fanbase.
He didn’t care about her pre-transition. He doesn’t care about her post-transition. He doesn’t care about a “woke mind virus”. He’s just doing the right-wing equivalent of virtue signaling. Vice signaling?
The “best” part is that it’s basically all because she pointed out what a POS dad he was, and when some stupid publicity stunts he did to make her like him didn’t work, he turned on her and went on this “woke mind virus” tirade. He’s such a petulant child it’s absolutely hilarious.
Oh, I didn’t know about that history. I thought it all started with the Jordan Peterson interview.
Also, speaking as a disowned trans woman, while not the case here, often the parents saying that refrain either were the ones to cut contact themselves, or are engaging in missing missing reasons shit
It’s not uncommon for even loving and supportive parents to need to mourn their idea of who they thought their child was as they get to know them as they are now. But that’s a time to maybe attend some pflag counseling sessions and talk to parents who’ve been through it and can assure them that their kid is the same person and going to be happier. Making a public stink and getting involved in transphobia guarantees lasting damage to your relationship if it can ever be recovered.
I’m so very sorry to hear that happened to you. There’s a lot of parents out there that are… less than optimal. I guess the various survivors will just have to build our own found families out of people worth our time.
Yeah. Though it should be noted, it’s actually rare for disowning like that to be permanent. I’ve known my fair share of us and contact is usually reestablished a few years later. At nearing 10 years without meaningful contact I’m an exception. But for those who do reestablish contact the years and trust that are lost are incredibly important. To lose family during such an emotionally and materially vulnerable time does lasting damage and some parents don’t seem to get why their child, while open to reestablishing contact, can’t let things go back to how they were before.
And yeah I’ve been fortunate, I find myself surrounded by love and community at stage after stage of my life. Some scars are difficult to heal, and so I do like to speak up on this topic in case someone who needs to hear does.
love seeing references to Down the Rabbit Hole out in the wild
I mean isn’t he choosing all male children? What else do you expect.
He’s a literal technofascist and yes he is, almost none of his kids are reportedly natural conceptions and there’s some evidence to suggest botched penis vanity surgery prevents him from having children naturally.
there’s some evidence to suggest botched penis vanity surgery prevents him from having children naturally.
Someone should do a study of these fucking losers to see how much overlap there is between hateful right wing ideology, bigots, pedos, etc. and dudes with deformed penises.
Didn’t Epstein also have a weird shaped penis? And Trump?
I don’t even know if he understands what sex is.
What evidence of a botched penis vanity surgery is there?
His ex grimes allegedly saying it.
There’s a difference between Grimes saying something and Azealia Banks claiming that Grimes said something. I’d be very skeptical of any rumor started by Azealia Banks.
There’s not, grimes has had ample opportunity to rebuke the idea and chose not to so it stands as circumstantial evidence.
I am skeptical of anyone giving musk the benefit of the doubt at this point, guess we’re just different people huh?
Nobody wants to respond to Azealia Banks, who is known for harassing other artists on social media, especially ones who don’t have the foresight to avoid interacting with her. Grimes didn’t comment the last name Banks dragged her into a feud related to Elon Musk, and later released a song about “trying to destroy Azealia Banks when she tried to destroy my life”.
Why would Grimes go out of her way to defend her ex against rumors about his penis when he just tried to block her from seeing their children? Grimes is not responsible for refuting rumors about Musk and she has every reason to ignore them, even more so when Azealia Banks is involved.
That’s an allegation, not evidence.
Sounds like circumstantial evidence to me…
Allegations from first hand sources are evidence, that’s an eye witness they have children together people have been convicted of murder on eye witness alone.
My limited understanding of the law is that allegations can trigger investigations in the hopes to find evidence, but are not evidences themselves. I could be wrong though.
Holy fuck is THAT what Vivian’s dead name is?! Jesus Christ what an absolute loser musk is… what is his obsession with the letter X
Dude is a like 12 year old, I swear
‘X’ is the 88th ASCII character.
This sort of stuff felt like reaching until I witnessed it myself.
For those who don’t know: X is like a swastica, and it’s the 88th ascii character, H is the 8th letter, 88 -> HH -> “hail Hitler”.
Yes. I do feel like Adam West’s Batman.
I haven’t seen evidence of X as a dogwhistle, though I would suspect if I did it would be like the OK sign, which was intentionally used to make antifascists look crazy
I’m not saying he’s not a nazi obsessed with the letter, both are true. But they don’t feel related and I haven’t seen non-circumstantial evidence predating Musk being a fascist.
I think the Nazi influence goes back pretty far for him. I heard that his grandparents were neo Nazis in Canada.
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Of course it is
He’s like a preschooler trying to use their power level
Basically his first “son” named X didn’t turn out the way he wanted, so he made another son named X.
And he changed twitter to X.
And X is an established nazi reference.
Elon is rotten and evil to his core.
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I’m honestly surprised that I somehow managed to miss that. There’s also X AE A-XII, and there are some others that have an x in the name such as Exa Dark Sideræl Musk and Saxon Musk.
such as Exa Dark Sideræl Musk
I hate this so goddamn much.
It’s a “my immortal” ass name
It’s like a fucking middle schooler saw the word “sideareal” in their science textbook and thought it looked cool.
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Fucking called her Xavier, I would change that even if I wasn’t trans
wait till you hear about X Æ A-12
Using an Æ without being able to pronounce it is both offensive and hilarious to me as a Dænish person
What’s the correct pronunciation in danish?
Æ
Nice try, Elon.
Isn’t it “ah” like Ænema?
I saw it explained as x ash a 12… So ae is ash i guess
According to Wikipedia there are 4 pronunciations in Norwegian alone, none of which are “ash”.
I initially thought it was pretty much like ä, but apparently that’s only one of the possible pronunciations.
Poor kid… Xasha 12 was at least a bit off a name.
Based on their relationship post-Luigi, I’m pretty sure you pronounce X Æ A-12 as “Kevlar”.
Now daddy is going to stand in front of an open window, so it’s time for a piggyback ride little Kevlar!
Yeah it’s certainly easier to pronounce than Xäa12 would be. But I mean if the muskmelon is just picking pronunciations he likes for letters, it can be absolutely anything. Maybe it’s actually Shanty
He can’t even pronounce Æ.
He probably thinks it’s pronounced like this:
That legitimately brightened my day a little, thank you. Made me smile
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I’m in a German speaking place and I know someone named Xaver, which people here pronounce ‘Ksah-fffer’ (really strong f in the regional dialect). The English version is tame in comparison.
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Thx, fixed
Idk it’s a fine name imo. Sure if I hear a guy is named Xavier I assume black man, but it’s a name of both a saint and a comic book hero.
This isn’t the right thread to post it on, but no he can be shittier. He even pulled a preemptive Adolf Eichmann when he said that he never physically hurt anyone. This is what Eichmann said at his trial. That he never killed a Jew or ordered anyone to kill a Jew.
That was, of course, irrelevant. He was the architect of the holocaust and his actions are what allowed the 20 million victims to die.
Slight tangent here: it’s important for everyone to recognize how any organizational structure or bureaucracy contributes to the diffusion of responsibility. At best it’s accidental, but at worst, it’s used to protect those in power while ensuring the little guy is left holding the bag. At the same time, it helps everyone involved do their part since their individual role is usually very small and only slightly outside the moral bounds of the individual (if at all). You (anyone) may be in an organization that has the same patterns at play, * right now.*
This is also why RICO lawsuits are a thing, since it was nearly impossible to nail mob bosses to the wall without it. IMO, we still need something stronger as applied to the misdeeds of corporations, but I suspect that’ll be a long time coming.
Many countries did enact RICO style laws to stop organized crime. In Japan if one Yakuza member does something really stupid, they can actually arrest and charge many of his comrades even if they had nothing to do with his crime or even have knowledge of it.
Oh wow. If there was ever a Japanese take on something like RICO, “you have brought shame on your organization so all of your associates get punished” is probably the most Japanese one possible.
If he thinks himself eichnann I’ve got news for him, as he’s a major propagandist, and Goebbels and Streicher both hanged.
Julius Streicher was indeed hanged, but Goebbels committed suicide… along with his wife… after killing their children…
Oh yeah he was one of the ones who knew he was doomed and did it himself
A coward to the end, unwilling to answer for the crimes he knew he committed.
And seriously what a sick fuck to even kill his kids. The allies weren’t going to punish his children.
I swear… that guy lives in a cartoon.
As an elder millennial I liked to watch older cartoons of my childhood previously, but as I got older I thought ‘man I wish the world was that simple to understand with cartoon villains’.
Then I got even older and now I realize that the world IS that simple. Only problem is that we don’t have cartoon heroes to match.
This is some JW disfellowshiping level behavior.
But sure Elon, you’re not the one in a cult, it’s everyone outside of your group that’s crazy.
Dude, are you an escaped JW disfelloshipped king/queen too? I totally did not expect to see this relation brought up in this thread!
No, but I know some ex JWs.
No. He just stopped letting his PR people manage his twitter account. The man had a falling out with his father because his father married his step sister before he could. His family was never well.
What the actual fuck?
Elon’s father did take for his third wife, the daughter of his second wife, with her previous partner. This was decades after he disowned Elon. Might as well mention Elon did not inherit any emerald mine money either.
Hmm
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no Hapsburgs were doing that with blood relatives.
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So you understand why it’s not Hapsburg like, then?
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Look, the fucking point was Errol Musk wasn’t blood related to any of his wives. How is it this hard for you to see that?
Hapsburgs at least had some cultural normalcy and the goal of stable international politics to excuse their actions. Errol Musk doesn’t have that excuse.
They had a cousinly spat that caused us to decide that all is not fair in war and that actually we need clear rules because this got out of hand
My guess is that Elon’s ego was hurt when Vivian started the process of legally changing her name from Xavier to Vivian. To a narcissist like Elon, that is a personal attack and he is small brained enough that he would allow himself to become radicalized over something as petty as his kid rejecting the name he gave them and taking on another.
It’s just me speculating, but considering how hysterical he got over his submarine getting rejected in the cave rescue mission and how he paid for the rescuer who rejected him to be investigated for pedophilia and took it all the way to the courts, I wouldn’t put it past him that the catalyst for him joining MAGA was Vivian’s name change. He is that pathetic.
According to Vivian he also paid extra to have them select only male embryos during the in vitro process, or something like that (not sure about the details and correct terminology) - and didn’t get what he paid for in Vivian’s case… Which I guess probably also contributed.
Lol get fucked ya South African sub-human, teach ya to tempt the fates with your eugenicist bullshit.
sub-human
Pfff, I wish. Perfectly typical.
Dude doesn’t live in reality. And yet somehow the fact that he designed his own babies doesn’t surprise me in the slightest. It is probably one of the least bizarre things about Elon.
The fact that he was named after a fictitious character who colonizes Mars and that his entire life’s mission is to live out the “prophecy” his own father put upon him because of some cringe sci-fi story written by a literal NASA-nazi is still one of the weirdest fucking factoids about him.
If he wasn’t such a pos, I would almost feel bad for Elon and his massive daddy issues.
Reddit link booooooo
Saving some storage space by not reuploading!
And less engagement with something like
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/android/addon/reddit-direct-images/
Nah. He was just lying because he thought he needed to to get richer.
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Got you friend
Weird, I don’t have an account and it works in my browser
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Fucking idiot killed his son himself.There was no “virus”. He went with “you’re dead to me”. Vivian said that this is who she is and he killed her for it. He’s the loser - she’s living her truth and he’s blind to who he really is. What a clown.
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This is horrendous. Imagine saying “my child is dating someone black, they’re dead to me” or “I didn’t realise her mum was mixed race when I had sex with her so I’m severing contact with my child”. This is outrageous horrible and abusive. I’m genuinely upset about this
It’s even worse than that, it’s:
they’re dead
to meOh god you’re right. It’s scrubbing her off the planet altogether… she may even feel physically threatened by that
needed a moment to realise this is about Vivian
It’s not impossible he’s more mad about the name change removing the X from her name.
I wonder if fElon would really be a little less unhappy if she had gone with Xena instead of Vivian? Of course, that isn’t something she needs to care about – but I’m just wondering if he’s stupid enough for that!
Wanting to exterminate ideas is definitely not a fascist tendency.
I really cannot wait for the pendulum to swing back the other way. I am going to be absolutely insufferable about it until I die. These people have gone so far over the line.
Wanting to exterminate ideas is definitely not a fascist tendency.
From the same guy that said he wanted to “cure” autism. Surely you must jest.
Would you say eliminating the idea of the patriarchy or fascism itself is fashy?
I’d say eliminating patriarchy or fascism is coercive, but not (necessarily) authoritarian and definitely not fascist:
- Coercive because you’re using force to suppress the idea (e.g. punching Nazis, canceling abusers.)
- Anti-authoritarian if the people are organically self-organizing to punch Nazis. More authoritarian if a centralized power is drafting people to punch Nazis.
- Not fascist because fascism is inherently far-right, and predicated on enforcing a “natural” power hierarchy.
The Paradox of Tolerance justifies the forceful suppression of fascism and patriarchy. But imo you have to be careful - I limit my application of the Paradox of Tolerance to ideas that intrinsically cannot coexist with freedom of thought.
Literally nobody in my day-to-day life has ever warned me about or even used the term ‘woke mind virus’. It’s a fucking ridiculous notion pushed by ignorant, non-serious fakers. If anyone did say that to me in person, I’d laugh at their face then turn around and walk away laughing so hard i’d be looking for a hand rail or wall to balance myself. It’s too bad social media doesn’t allow for that level of humiliating interaction
Is the woke mind virus here with us in this room right now?
I’ve heard it be used ironically
Elon has so many kids, it is too annoying for me to look up if any of them actually died or if he is talking about the trans kid or if he is hallucinating or something completely different.
Elon has reached the point where I am not even angry at him, I just get sad.
(Them again, I don’t live in his sphere of influence, so maybe then I would be more angry)
He tells a lie about his daughter Vivian (who he deadnamed here) being his best friend and token gay kid sidekick, but then the “Woke Mind Virus” turned her into a “Screeching Lefty Loon” after indoctinating her in the “Trans Agenda”
According to Vivian though, the real story is that they were never close, she was neglected by her father, she was never the precious little gay stereotype Musk claimed her to be, and he’s having a midlife crisis where he blatantly makes up shit to blame everyone else but himself for being an absent father.
Vivian is dope as shit.
I think it would be hilarious if she ended up owning his companies. But he’s probably written her out of the will.
Theres research showing LGBT kids raised by abusers are often targeted for abuse. They’re often gender non conforming, and the abuser goes for them. It’s just awful
He had one kid actually die once, and at the time he didn’t even bother showing up while the baby was on life support and getting mad at his then-wife for being sad about the kid dying, and accusing her of just using it as an excuse to make his life slightly inconvenient.
Then later lied for sympathy points and claimed he held his son as the son died.
Is this idiot talking about his daughter? Sorry I’m away from news
Yep
he apparently used IVF or something to have kids, and only had male embryos implanted into the partner dejure of the moment.
So when she came out as trans, he lost his absolute fucking mind.
He was always a emotionally stunted pre teen edgelord.
But when she came out, he went extremely hard right and dove head first into deathcamp nazism
Yeah, he was “pro” rights for that community and posted about it on Twitter pre that happening. Then she came out and he flipped his shit started hating it all.
The man child also had a hissy fit when Grimes started dating Chelsea Manning.
He has like 14 kids and is a total sociopath so ‘losing’ one shouldn’t be a big deal. Russian Tsars had healthier relationships with their kids.
I’m not here to shit on your mastery of language, but:
De jure - by law (from Latin)
Du jour - of the day (from French)
