Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t it literally the fact that serial killers and human traffickers were getting arrested and deported that had folks torching Teslas to begin with?
No, I did not say that. But a lot of them were, and this meme seems to be saying that it would be preferable for violent criminals to get arrested than for protestors who only cause property damage. Except the protests causing property damage were literally in response to violent criminals getting arrested, so this a complete red herring.
You don’t seem to subscribe to “innocent until proven guilty” do you. These people are accused of being criminals but they are not convicted. But I guess if King Trump the Wise says they are criminals then they are
Mate, have you seen the shit he has retweeted saying he agrees? A bunch of replacement theory shit, heaps of antisemitic shit, and a while much of other racist shit.
that many Democrat leaders have made as well
If you watch the videos of those Democrat leaders, it’s pretty clear they’re waving to a crowd. Elon’s one was obviously a nazi salute.
wasteful government spending
Ah yes, wasteful stuff like vital medicine distribution and humanitarian aid, and really lowering the deficit by cutting taxes on big corporations, and giving contracts to his own company.
Wow. Ok. Before I go on, can I just say that your world view is extremely messed up. I’d tell you to go get it checked but I know the US healthcare system is broken.
First of all, if they’re not confirmed, how do you know that they are serial killers and human traffickers? The colour of their skin? How many tattoos they have? What evidence or procedure, other than a visual inspection, would make you believe that they are what you think they are?
Secondly, if they were awaiting trial, they’d be waiting in an enclosed space away from the general public as a precaution. Isn’t it meant to be the American judicial mantra that everyone is innocent until proven guilty and that everyone has a right to a fair trial?
Thirdly, what if you’re a serial killer or human trafficker? How would you prove otherwise if you were deported immediately? Or would you become one anyway since others have already decided for you?
And who makes those laws? And for what purpose? Is it to curb the incoming illegal migrants? Doesn’t seem to work. Many people are crossing the border to look for work and are actually successfully integrating with their new society. Shouldn’t the law allow for legal transition rather than keeping them as illegal immigrants? Shouldn’t there be legal pathways to citizenship? Shouldn’t it be easy for those on visas to check when their papers will be expired to prevent being in the country illegally?
The border isn’t a walk in the park to cross either. If you don’t die in the river, you’ll likely die in the desert. If it’s so high risk, what’s the reward worth? Why even bother crossing?
I would call the cops and let them put you on trial, obviously.
Also, I would’ve been able to see that you’ve come from the neighbour’s house, which is not as nice as mine. If it turns out in trial that you just wanted to escape the poverty of next door and want to sell your labor, hell yeah I’d pay. You can mow my lawn.
I posted this in another thread but it’s worth posting it here too. This person is obviously not arguing in good faith. Literally everybody knows that’s not the situation. But here this person is, oversimplifying, speaking to anger others, and obfuscating the facts.
Anyway, here’s my comment from the other day:
This is that usual gaslighting rhetoric from the right. Someone reminded of the Sartre quote about anti-semites recently. It’s so applicable to how the right twists facts and makes absurd over-generalizations. It’s the epitome of acting in bad faith.
“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”
Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t it literally the fact that serial killers and human traffickers were getting arrested and deported that had folks torching Teslas to begin with?
Where in the world did you hear that? Every source on this cites Elon and his extremist Nazi beliefs as a core reason.
You’re responding to a Nazi. Reread their comment, they’re saying all the people being illegally arrested are rapists and murderers
No, I did not say that. But a lot of them were, and this meme seems to be saying that it would be preferable for violent criminals to get arrested than for protestors who only cause property damage. Except the protests causing property damage were literally in response to violent criminals getting arrested, so this a complete red herring.
You don’t seem to subscribe to “innocent until proven guilty” do you. These people are accused of being criminals but they are not convicted. But I guess if King Trump the Wise says they are criminals then they are
The majority of them DID have criminal records:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hundreds-illegal-immigrant-criminals-arrested-more-flown-from-us-military-white-house-says/
But either way, if they entered the country illegally, that’s a crime in and of itself and deportation seems appropriate.
Okay, but what’s the evidence for him being a Nazi, other than a single hand gesture (that many Democrat leaders have made as well BTW)?
I don’t see him invading Poland or putting people in concentration camps, literally all he is doing is cutting wasteful government spending.
Mate, have you seen the shit he has retweeted saying he agrees? A bunch of replacement theory shit, heaps of antisemitic shit, and a while much of other racist shit.
If you watch the videos of those Democrat leaders, it’s pretty clear they’re waving to a crowd. Elon’s one was obviously a nazi salute.
Ah yes, wasteful stuff like vital medicine distribution and humanitarian aid, and really lowering the deficit by cutting taxes on big corporations, and giving contracts to his own company.
Donations to AfD, a political party whose leaders have regularly violated Germany’s anti-Nazi laws. It’s really that simple.
Anyone can go through videos to get the perfect screenshot to make it look similar. We all saw what he did. Boot licker
Ah, you are one of those.
Blocked.
racist much?
Only occasionally
on occasions when you are awake?
Well, I certainly hope I’m not posting here in my sleep.
Well, Trump is still in the white house, so youre literally just wrong
Ahem, alleged serial killers and human traffickers.
None of those deported got a fair trial.
Oh trying to argue with one of those undereducated americans is like talking to a door. I mean they voted for Trump. twice
I do enjoy the spectating the sport ‘Mental Gymnastics’.
So we should just sit around and wait until they become confirmed serial killers and human traffickers?
Wow. Ok. Before I go on, can I just say that your world view is extremely messed up. I’d tell you to go get it checked but I know the US healthcare system is broken.
First of all, if they’re not confirmed, how do you know that they are serial killers and human traffickers? The colour of their skin? How many tattoos they have? What evidence or procedure, other than a visual inspection, would make you believe that they are what you think they are?
Secondly, if they were awaiting trial, they’d be waiting in an enclosed space away from the general public as a precaution. Isn’t it meant to be the American judicial mantra that everyone is innocent until proven guilty and that everyone has a right to a fair trial?
Thirdly, what if you’re a serial killer or human trafficker? How would you prove otherwise if you were deported immediately? Or would you become one anyway since others have already decided for you?
They already broke the law by coming here illegally.
And who makes those laws? And for what purpose? Is it to curb the incoming illegal migrants? Doesn’t seem to work. Many people are crossing the border to look for work and are actually successfully integrating with their new society. Shouldn’t the law allow for legal transition rather than keeping them as illegal immigrants? Shouldn’t there be legal pathways to citizenship? Shouldn’t it be easy for those on visas to check when their papers will be expired to prevent being in the country illegally?
The border isn’t a walk in the park to cross either. If you don’t die in the river, you’ll likely die in the desert. If it’s so high risk, what’s the reward worth? Why even bother crossing?
If I showed up at your house at night, unannounced and without permission, would you throw me out right away or wait until I raided your fridge?
I would call the cops and let them put you on trial, obviously.
Also, I would’ve been able to see that you’ve come from the neighbour’s house, which is not as nice as mine. If it turns out in trial that you just wanted to escape the poverty of next door and want to sell your labor, hell yeah I’d pay. You can mow my lawn.
And do you think the cops would remove me from your house before giving me a trial?
Why don’t I get to stay? I demand to stay at your house until this is sorted out.
That doesn’t mean they don’t deserve a fair trial.
Shut the fuck up, you useless sack of shit. You should get deported to Mar A Lago with your racist, nazi friends.
Mar A Lago seems like a nice place to get deported to. Thank you for your kindness, I’ll take it.
Hey Dora, you really NEED to get off the acid, and stop licking Boots. He’s… he’s all wet, and clearly uncomfortable.
I posted this in another thread but it’s worth posting it here too. This person is obviously not arguing in good faith. Literally everybody knows that’s not the situation. But here this person is, oversimplifying, speaking to anger others, and obfuscating the facts.
Anyway, here’s my comment from the other day:
This is that usual gaslighting rhetoric from the right. Someone reminded of the Sartre quote about anti-semites recently. It’s so applicable to how the right twists facts and makes absurd over-generalizations. It’s the epitome of acting in bad faith.
“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”
I’m sorry, but what part of what I said was antisemitic?
Look everyone they are again doing exactly what the example above states: writing bulshit to elicit emotional responses.
As opposed to posting memes to elicit emotional responses?