• ZytaZiouZ@lemmy.worldEnglish
    36·
    1 year ago

    Firefox for life! Well as long as they don’t go evil or bankrupt. I am not surprised at all though.

    1. Kneecap plugin performance especially for AdBlock plugins claiming it’s for security.
    2. Notify users that those plugins are slowing down Chrome.
    3. ???
    4. Profit… or people hopefully switch
    • N01R3@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      1 year ago

      I mean, they’ve already started cutting some features I have used… So I’ve got Firefox and Pale Moon on my PC to cover the loss of ftp support. And since some pages don’t work in Firefox in either instance of engine, I have to have Chrome installed…

      • cowmouse@lemmy.worldEnglish
        4·
        1 year ago

        It genuinely sucks that some websites don’t bother to support Firefox! When you encounter one, you might want to complain to the devs and open a webcompat issue.

      • u/lukmly013 💾 (lemmy.sdf.org)@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        I have already encountered some websites which didn’t work with Chrome very well, but did with Firefox. They mentioned it’s because of how Chrome now handles audio, the audio doesn’t start.

      • jmshrv@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        1 year ago

        Maintaining a browser is an insane amount of work. Without Mozilla working on Firefox, LibreWolf will stagnate and become unusable.

    • entropicshart@lemmy.worldEnglish
      31·
      1 year ago

      Their recent advertising of their VPN has set some worrisome trends; here’s to hope they stop that nonsense before we have to move to a fork.

      • Bazoogle@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        1 year ago

        I mean, it’s not great, but it’s also not the worst. You can also disable it. Chrome gets money by collecting your data to use for advertising purposes. Firefox doesn’t do that, so I don’t see much harm in them advertising some of their products a couple times a year. Even wikipedia advertises their own donation period, trying to encourage users to donate.

        If it were a persistent banner, that would be different. But a one time closable window, that can also be disabled, is really not that terrible. Companies need money, after all.

  • psycrow@lemmy.worldEnglish
    35·
    1 year ago

    Fun fact, did you know that google deliberately makes their products run worse on browsers like Firefox so users will think the browsers are slow? Please support Firefox, it’s the only real browser not based on Googles technology (like Brave is), and it’s actively fighting Google’s monopoly on web browsing.

      • laxe@lemmy.mlEnglish
        2·
        1 year ago

        On desktop the market share is somewhat higher.

        I switched back to Firefox ever since the Quantum release and have been loving it.

        I wish Mozilla would spend their resources on the browser instead of wasting time and money on so many other useless projects.

      • bustrpoindextr@lemmy.worldEnglish
        01·
        1 year ago

        It’s a terrible mobile browser…

        I honestly gave it a go, and I liked that I could run ad blocking, but the constant crashing and poor website rendering shoved me back to chrome on mobile a couple weeks ago. I’d rather deal with ads and have the browser be stable apparently.

        • therealmdubbs@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          2·
          1 year ago

          I use it on mobile just for uBlock. As far as I know it’s the only mobile browser that supports extensions. If you use their nightly version it can use any extension that you can get on desktop. The base version only supports a few extension, but uBlock is one of them.

        • optissima@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          1 year ago

          What’s not working? Most broken websites are fixed by having it flag itself as chrome mobile, which is telling that your falling for what Google wants right now. And what crashes are you getting? I get one no more than once a week if that and I have over 100 tabs open

          • theshatterstone54@feddit.ukEnglish
            2·
            1 year ago

            Wait, you guys get crashes on Firefox Mobile? Like legit, I was using Firefox for months, in fact, nearly a year, with over 100 tabs opened constantly (it showed up as an Infinity sign, lol) and I don’t remember ever having Firefox crash on me. That’s unusual.

    • Eleu8erios@lemmy.worldEnglish
      31·
      1 year ago

      Wish Firefox goes with Vivaldi direction. I can’t try another browser since I 'm so addicted to gestures. Plus a lot more customization is available.

  • Vangarell@lemmy.worldEnglish
    15·
    1 year ago

    Such a baseless statement. Ad blockers actually improve performance by removing random junk videos, and images from running on the site.

    I’m so glad to have switched to Firefox.

    • DrNeurohax@kbin.social
      4·
      1 year ago

      Yes, but if I remember correctly, the UBlock Origin devs said that the current restrictions in Chrome prevent some of the performance improvements seen in FFx because the filtering is done after the element is downloaded. So, it still has to transfer, but isn’t rendered or executed. I could be mistaken, though.

  • teft@lemmy.worldEnglish
    121·
    1 year ago

    You should switch from chrome to firefox. Less tracking built in to the browser. Also chrome is planning to deprecate manifest V2 which will break all adblockers.

    • R0cket_M00se@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      1 year ago

      Unless you use a browser that uses its own ad and tracker blocking. I get fewer ads on Vivaldi without adblocking then I get on Firefox with ublock origin.

      Runs about half the resources that Firefox takes up too.

      Ad block on chromium was supposed to break in January when manifest v3 came around and it doesn’t seem like much has changed on browsers that were prepared for it like Brave and V.

      Edge and Chrome are fucked, but who cares about them anyways.

      • Bazoogle@lemmy.worldEnglish
        8·
        1 year ago

        I used vivaldi for a period, but it’s still Chromium. I’m trying to support the only non-chromium option out there. The more users Firefox has, the better. Chrome and Chromium are so dominant, it’s seriously problematic.

      • cowmouse@lemmy.worldEnglish
        5·
        1 year ago

        Unless you were running Firefx with outdated uBO filters, I doubt that. Vivaldi is a memory hog for me.

  • Maple@lemmy.worldEnglish
    101·
    1 year ago

    So I’ve heard good and bad things about Firefox in this thread. The bad things being mainly the performance, and some sites just don’t load…

    So my question to you is, If I’m comfortably browsing on Brave with uBlock on, is it really worth the switch right now?

    • Miqo@lemmy.worldEnglish
      7·
      1 year ago

      Firefox had some issues like a decade ago on their old engine. In the past few years, they seriously stepped up their game.

      If you’re a normal user, you probably won’t even notice the difference between Firefox and Chomium-based browsers. Sometimes I come across a weird website that doesn’t want to load properly, so I’ll open a Chrome tab for a few minutes to access it, but that’s increasingly rare.

      For web development, I generally prefer Chome’s debug tools, but do all my normal browsing with Firefox.

      • Maple@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        1 year ago

        Yeah, I am a normal user, I don’t do web development or anything like that so I’ll probably hold off on a decision until the new manifest. Thanks for your input. :)

    • Danatronic@lemmy.worldEnglish
      51·
      1 year ago

      The founder of Brave had previously been fired from Mozilla due to his homophobia. Firefox is the more ethical choice.

      But it’s also perfectly fine for most web browsing, and is the only web browser I’ve seen with extensions like ublock available on mobile.

      • Maple@lemmy.worldEnglish
        33·
        1 year ago

        I get that something like that might sway some people, and more power to you if you don’t want to in any way support people like that. But It isn’t going to affect me personally. I’m the type to separate the art from the artist, ya know? Plus there’s more people making Brave than just that one person, so like. I dunno, this doesn’t really affect my decision in the long run. I guess I’ll just wait and see when the new manifest happens, thanks for your input though!

    • gila@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      1 year ago

      If you’re comfortable, maybe not. I’ve done that recently though because Brave was actually the one giving me display issues on sites I frequent. Issues that aren’t experienced on other Chromium browsers or Firefox.

    • d3Xt3r@lemmy.worldEnglish
      41·
      1 year ago

      Yes. Brave is based on Chromium, which has some limitations on things which can be filtered. If you truly care about your privacy, use Firefox, or a further-privacy focused Firefox variant such as LibreWolf. The so called performance issues of Firefox are greatly exaggerated, realistically you won’t be able to notice any difference.

      • Maple@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        Thanks for letting me know, I’ll check it out. Though, I do get kinda skeptical when companies announce that their privacy focused, there’s usually some sort of ulterior motive at work.

        • 🦥󠀠󠀠󠀠󠀠󠀠󠀠@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          1 year ago

          Brave constantly shoves crypto crap in your face and tries to monetize your web browsing experience. It’s awful.

          Other than Firefox, you have Vivaldi and also other Chrome alternatives like Chromium too. Firefox preforms plenty fast so don’t let rumor or hearsay stop you from trying it either.

          • rodneylives@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            1 year ago

            Vivaldi is nice. They’re a little aggressive in pushing their new features, but their hearts seem to be in the right place. It’s run by ex-Opera people, and has a similar kind of feel to how Opera used to be when it was the #3 browser. It does still use the Chromium engine though.

    • JoMiran@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      1 year ago

      To me, the answer will always be “containers”. Firefox containers were a game changer and I can never go back.

    • dustyData@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      1 year ago

      The performance bit is a lottery. Some people won’t notice any significant difference from chrome. A few will have severe issues. For most the slowdown will be circumstantial or won’t even notice.

      Sites that don’t load properly are few and far between. Mostly poor web developers who are doing something undocumented or applying outdated practices. Often is just targeting some behavior that works on Chrome but is not standard. Firing up Brave to open the odd page once in a blue moon is not too extreme to ask. Specially since it’s the result of Google’s influence on the W3C standards and forcing their way upon others.

      Brave iscool and all. But everytime I open it I fear it’s going to backdoor a cryptominer into my machine. It just gives that vibe.

      • Botree@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        But everytime I open it I fear it’s going to backdoor a cryptominer into my machine. It just gives that vibe.

        I know right?? I know my data’s going to get stolen one way or another, but Brave made me feel like I could potentially lose more than that.

        Been trying out Edge and I got to say I’m pretty spoiled by having Bing chat on the sidebar as my coding assistance, except it’s becoming more temperamental lately, refusing to answer simple questions and flipping me off by saying things like “I don’t want to talk about this anymore” before terminating the chat.

    • ComeHereOrIHookYou@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      Performance wise widely depends on the site used. Some sites (notably Google ones) are notorious for implementing anti-competitive behavior, where if their website is visited other than a chromium based browser, it slows down or a functionality stops working.

      I mean its the whole reason why Microsoft switch from Edge Edge HTML to Edge Chromium/Blink.

      The only good reason right now if you want to stick with Chromium based browsers such as Brave is you’re heavily into browser based games as currently Chromium (and it’s older brother, webkit) are the ones that have the best webgl performance, Firefox can do it but not as fast as Chromium and performance impact is very noticeable

    • grue@lemmy.worldEnglish
      32·
      1 year ago

      You’re posting on Lemmy and you joined seven days ago, so it’s a safe bet that you have some opinions about Reddit. So I’ll put it this way: if you have a problem with the way Reddit concentrates power in the hands of u/Spez and want to support alternatives because of that, then you should also have a similar problem with how Chromium-based browsers concentrate power in the hands of Google and reject Brave in favor of Firefox.

    • 🅱🅴🅿🅿🅸@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      21·
      1 year ago

      I’ve been using Firefox for years now and the only issue I’ve had is that at work I can’t download particularly large files from John Deere operations centre so I use another browser just for that. Everything else, which is literally everything as far as I’m concerned, has been a better experience for me than Chrome ever was. Also Brave uses chromium which is cringe.

      I’d say it’s worth the switch as if you care about privacy, Firefox just has more tools available to this end

  • sophs@lemmy.worldEnglish
    9·
    1 year ago

    If you wanna keep using adblocks you should start moving away from Chrome/Chromium-based browsers as soon as possible!!

    • R0cket_M00se@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      1 year ago

      That’s what they said in January too and Vivaldi is still working just fine at blocking ads with internal ad blocking. I don’t even have an ad blocker extension installed.

      • sophs@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        1 year ago

        They pushed the deadline to January 2024, that’s when Chromium is officially dropping support for MV2. As of now, new MV2 extensions can’t be uploaded to the store. Built-in adblockers won’t be affected by that change because they’re not extensions.

    • Chestrade@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      Not necessarily chromium ones. I get that Chrome has a monopoly over all browsers, but brave offers great privacy control even though it’s a chromium based browser.

      • sophs@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        1 year ago

        It’s not just about privacy, at least for me. Staying away form the Chromium monopoly is the biggest point.

      • DreamySweet@vlemmy.netEnglish
        2·
        1 year ago

        Chrome plating (less commonly chromium plating) is a technique of electroplating a thin layer of chromium onto a metal object. A chrome plated part is called chrome, or is said to have been chromed.

        Chromium is a chemical element with the symbol Cr and atomic number 24. It is the first element in group 6. It is a steely-grey, lustrous, hard, and brittle transition metal.

      • TWeaK@lemm.eeEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        Firefox is actually a red panda. Which frankly are even cooler than foxes.

        • NightOwl@lemmy.oneEnglish
          11·
          1 year ago

          https://support.mozilla.org/nl/questions/988854

          philipp Moderator

          the name “firefox” comes from the red panda & the icon apparently from a fox, so you’re both right in a way. a little bit of ambiguity and people discussing the brand of the browser seems to be quite a likeable thing to maintain ;-)

      • Dav@kbin.social
        11·
        1 year ago

        If you didn’t know, firefox has ‘containers’ where you can open a tab in, for example, a ‘work’ container and it won’t carry the cookies over. Lets you log into multiple accounts on 1 browser (like personal email & work email etc).

        Doesn’t have seperate history though.

        • wseda22@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          1 year ago

          I learned about containers less than year ago and kicked myself for not learning about them sooner. Containers in Firefox truly are a godsend.

        • cellar_door@kbin.social
          1·
          1 year ago

          Actually there’s one better - if you go to about:profiles in the URL bar you can make a new profile that is COMPLETELY separate, including history. Only annoying thing is that you have to go there every time you want to open a window in a profile other than the default

    • Aatube@kbin.social
      01·
      1 year ago

      I use Waterfox because Firefox actually does steal my data but Waterfox doesn’t.

        • morva@kbin.social
          5·
          1 year ago

          Firefox has telementary on by default which you can easily disable in settings.
          And imo waterfox is worse than Librewolf as it was sold to system1, a advertisment company

    • aeternum@kbin.social
      01·
      1 year ago

      You’re lying to yourself if you think Mozzarella Foxfire doesn’t have telemetry. I’d recommend Waterfox if you’re wanting no telemetry