• joeyv120@ttrpg.network
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    Shm. Smh. The fucking people who call all sodas “coke”.

    Them: What kind of Ford do you drive? Me: a Chevy.

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    Stupid shit like this hits hard to some folks in the south. I have family members are pissed how “everything is changing”, so much in fact that this very thing caused a disturbance at a local college pub. Last year, one of my dumbass family members was thrown out for being rude. When I asked him what happened he said…

    " That god damn Yankee girl wanted to know if I wanted a fucking pop. What the fuck is a pop? So I asked her. She said something like a soda or whatever and I told her, it’s a fucking coke and she needs to go back to fucking Chicago and get fucked. Don’t bring your stupid shit down here."

    Even more f’d up, is he would have ordered a Sprite.

    I dislike a few of my relatives.

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    Soda is an always has been the right term, but the people who say “coke” to mean any soda are the most wrongest people in history

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      I agree, but I also don’t go around saying “cellophane tape” or “photocopy”, and instead tend to use “scotch tape” and “xerox”. Lots of other people do too. I know that’s wrong too, but it at least partially explains the whole “coke” thing.

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      Why though? There’s no sodium bicarbonate in those, only carbon dioxide for the bubbles?

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    Soda: the correct way to say it
    Coke: a specific brand, but I’m all for genericization
    Pop: why are you calling a soft drink daddy?

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    The south is emphatically wrong on so much shit but calling soda/pop “coke” is somehow at the top of my list

    Call all ice cream vanilla, or all cereal corn flakes, or all alcohol beer why the fuck not

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      Florida here. I don’t say Coke for all soda just for a dark cola. But Coke is just the first brand I think of/want when it comes to Soda. Like the most ubiquitous.

      If I want a Root Beer I’m gonna ask for that. But I’d never fucking say Pop.

      I’d say Soda for the general.

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        Florida here, I say Coke for standard cola style soda and will use it to reference soda in a general manner if discussing with someone obviously from the South. I use soda as well.

        My wife grew up with pop and Pepsi as her regional standards. I make sure to reinforce soda and Coke as the correct standards since I’m not insane. ;)

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        Yes, because there’s no real difference between Kleenex and other brands of tissues. There’s a huge difference between a coke and a sprite for instance.

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        It literally says coke on the can, at least in my European country. In a smaller font and separate from Coca-Cola.

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      In reasonably confident that this is how people ask for a cola, not for any soda pop. The default soda in America is a cola, which we have the two primary brands (coke and Pepsi) and all the small time competitors. No one says ‘I’ll have a coke’ when they want a sprite.

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    We call it pop up in Canada so I’m rooting for that, but I will accept some loss of territory if it helps eliminate the coke people.

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    That explains my confusion on why I always got told that people in the south call it all coke, but when growing up, I always heard just called soda; I grew up in NC, which is considered a southern state, but appears to have been completely taken over by the soda side at this point.

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      Growing up in western NC, it was always Coke when I was a kid. But then shopping carts were buggies and toilets were commodes back then too.

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        Buggies I’ve not heard, but I do have a grandmother who still calls it the commode.

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          Mine went with commode as well, and my 70ish aunt is the only born American I’ve ever heard insist on calling it a buggy.

          @Kid_Thunder, mind if I ask the general era you were growing up? Because I’m a millennial from the triad and we say soda. Soda pop in elementary, but I’m not sure whether we picked that up from media.

          It would be interesting to work out around when the shift happened.

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            80s and 90s. I was a millennial when we were called Gen Y but like I said, west NC. I think being closer to Appalachia and thus Appalachian probably matters. So sometimes pants or jeans were ‘britches’, though not used by people my age then, “fixin’” was used a lot (“I’m fixen to come over yonder (‘over’ being optional here)” or perhaps ‘reckon’ in “I reckon that’s about a mile down that ways” where you ‘think’ it might be a mile over there. ‘Y’all’ was outpacing ‘you’uns’ by then. ‘Foot’ instead of ‘feet’ specifically for measurement was still used. Like “That’s about 2 foot thick.” Holler could be used two ways, one of those being to ‘yell’ or talk to someone or to describe a small valley. A toboggan was those knitted hats (stocking caps) you’d wear rather than the sled you’d typically be riding on wearing one of these. When you’re a young kid they’d sometimes have those stupid puffy balls on top of them. One of my grandmothers would use ‘I swunney!’ as an exclamation of being appalled or surprised by an outcome. I have no idea where that came from. ‘Chaw’ was used by older folks to describe a wad of chewing tobacco like “You have some chaw I can get?” A ‘bald’ was a the top of a mountain without trees and usually mostly rocks like “You can see 3 states from any of them balds over there.” Sometimes old people would call a backpack a ‘tow sack’ or even ‘clean’ is used kind of odd like “He knocked it clean out of the park!”

            We were still taught that slaves had it better off in some plantations and that many came back from the ‘silent North’ (implying blacks were straight up ignored and at least down South where they’d be beaten, lynched and tortured some thought that this attention was somehow better I guess) and that the Civil War was about States Rights and the issue of slavery wasn’t actually important. I’m not sure if it still is but I hope not. I assume it isn’t the way my family goes on and on about indoctrination of children outside of homeschooling.

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              Huh, where I am in Australia, we use ‘I reckon’ a lot. We also still casually refer to height in feet, and use ‘foot’. Eg. ‘I’m six foot one’. Everything else we measure in metric, and medical records list height in centimetres. Using ‘clean’ like that is pretty normal here too.

              Edit: To be clear, the height of a person. Nothing else.

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                I’m not sure how true it was but an anecdote my social studies teacher told us was that the dialect was closer to victorian/older (not quite Old English) English and that’s how Britain used to speak. However, in my opinion, they probably confused that with Britain specifically changing to non-rhotic English annunciation post the Revolutionary War with the, now US, to further separate culture. I don’t study linguistics so maybe she was right and I am wrong though. I’ve just never happened across anything of repute backing that up.

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              “We’re just fixin to go down the road a piece.”

              My oldest son thought Roadapiece was a place and eventually complained that I always said we were going to Roadapiece and never actually went there. Wife and I still laugh about it over a decade later.

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              From further north in Appalachia, ‘fixin’, ‘reckon’, ‘foot’, ‘chaw’, and ‘clean’ are still used all as described. In fact, I didn’t think ‘clean’ was local with that usage, I thought it was general use.

              Luckily the school system was less fond of traitors here.

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    These are always so weird to me. I grew up in the rural south, and I’ve never once heard Coke used to describe soft drinks generically. In my experience when someone asks for a “coke” they specifically mean Coca Cola and would be pissed if they got something else.

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      If you go to Georgia, ‘coke’ is whichever cola they have. At least that’s been my experience when visiting family down there. 99% of the time you get Coca Cola, but that 1% is a kick in the nuts.

      Had the same experience when I lived in east Texas and visited rural Louisiana. But it wasn’t that way when I lived in Virginia. Coke meant Coca Cola, and if you asked for coke and they had Pepsi, they’d ask if Pepsi was ok.

      In western Washington, it’s a hodgepodge.

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        Iirc when I lived there the reason is because the Cole bottling plant was there so it just came naturally as lingo

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    I like how it has really vague boundaries that are obviously approximate but then it pretends to do precise gerrymandering-type carveouts in the second map

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    Pop is slang, coke is a brand, soda is the read deal. You used to go to a business that had a soda fountain. SODA