cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/17147012

"Sometimes people use “respect” to mean “treating someone like a person” and sometimes they use “respect” to mean “treating someone like an authority”

and sometimes people who are used to being treated like an authority say “if you won’t respect me I won’t respect you” and they mean “if you won’t treat me like an authority I won’t treat you like a person”

and they think they’re being fair but they aren’t, and it’s not okay."

-a 15yo autistic girl experiencing ABA therapy

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  • WaxedWookie@lemmy.worldEnglish
    5·
    8 months ago

    You know the best way to get a teenager or a toddler for that matter to do something? Start by treating them like a person.

    I bet you absolutely love listening to people as they refuse to treat you like a person, let alone acknowledge your bullshit rationalisation.

    Try not to lick any boots on your way out.

    • Icaria@lemmy.worldEnglish
      13·
      8 months ago

      Any credibility you had, you aborted it with that last line. Naaaah, this is totally not just some teenager who resents adults telling them what to do, and this forum is totally not just a bunch of anarkiddies circlejerking, but also we’re gunna call you a bootlicker.

      Who cares if the quote is total bullshit by someone acting in bad faith if it hones the edge of the ideological axe you have to grind. Shit’s just reddit all over again.

      • WaxedWookie@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        8 months ago

        Die mad, I guess. Probably avoid having kids in the meantime though - I can’t imagine they’d deserve you as a parent.

        • Icaria@lemmy.worldEnglish
          13·
          8 months ago

          Die mad, I guess.

          Dude, I’m getting hitler comparisons and called a boot licker for inserting the only hint of healthy skepticism into the whole damned thread. Now I’m getting fuckin’ 'u mad’s straight outta 2008. Excuses, deflections, personal attacks; as the kids say, cope harder.

          (Oh and I’m not discounting the more sensible responses, it’s just there’s not a lot to say to personal anecdotes about some guy’s 12yo son.)

          • WaxedWookie@lemmy.worldEnglish
            3·
            8 months ago

            You’re making highly authoritarian, essentialist arguments - I can’t imagine why you’d be getting that kind of pushback.

            As you double down while getting downvoted to oblivion as everyone tells you how wrong you are, I’m sure you won’t be the…

            kid (that) comes up with bullshit rationalisation for why they’re right and everyone else is wrong once they get home.

            • Icaria@lemmy.worldEnglish
              11·
              8 months ago

              You’re making highly authoritarian, essentialist arguments

              Bruh, spend less time online and/or on campus, you’re turning into a moon person.

              The fucking irony of someone who was on the receiving end of malpractice from a psychiatrist as a child having to state that, yes, mental health professionals are generally authorities on behavioural and cognitive issues, and yes, adults are generally authorities on most things compared to 15yos. If I can get over it, I’m sure you can - hopefully before you spit out any little undisciplined animals of your own, and make them everyone else’s problem.

              As you double down while getting downvoted to oblivion as everyone tells you how wrong you are

              This is an indicator of a weak mind. Popularity contests have about as much bearing as insults. At no point have any of you explained how or why my reading of the post isn’t valid, and I highly suspect the anonymous downvotes and smartarsery are because you know it is and just don’t want to think about it, either due to an overarching agenda, or because no one likes feeling like they’ve been hoodwinked.