The problem with injuring Nazis is that they tend to just recover, and then go back to doing Nazi shit.
There was a pretty extensive study done from 1939 to 1945 on how to best deal with Nazis; for best outcomes, I’d refer to the results and testing techniques uncovered then.
Too many of the wealthy nazis were let go to relocate to other parts of the world and continue their nazi bullshit. Hopefully next time that mistake isn’t repeated.
I aint saying hate crimes are cool. My family legit doesnt know. If it was a Prussian Nazi then you basically killed the worst type of German that isnt an inbred mountain dweller. If it was just some Prussian exile then that relative just killed some dude for being a Prussian instead of an Alemanni speaker.
two world wars boomer ass take. we have better options than your john browning .45 stoppan power target pistol bullshit. the czechoslovakians have provided! get with the times!
One could definitely argue that some sort of light violence towards fascists is self-defense which has a chance to lead towards exit programs. Killing on the other hand causes a lot more issues.
I agree. Killing a nazi only causes more problems. You will be hunted by both the police and his fellow neonazis and they can and will use it for propaganda.
“Kill Nazis” is a keyboard commando response to a more complex problem.
When your police departments and state legislatures and churches and clubs and mega-corps are all riddled with fascist partisans, there’s no magic bullet that makes them all go away. At some level, you need to cultivate relationships in your community. You need to be friends with your neighbors. You need to be able to find allies in these corrupted institutions who are open to reform. You need to be able to reach out to the lumpen proletariat - the unemployed, the homeless, the young and afraid - and bring them into your community to reinforce it.
Only when you’ve got a community that’s strong enough and unified enough to take on the fascist elements can you seriously talk about purging its worst elements. And once you’ve done the yeoman’s work of organizing your neighborhood for people’s mutual benefit, I think you’ll find a lot of that fascist sentiment melts away of its own accord - perhaps even transforms into revolutionary sentiment, as your neighbors stop seeing one another as evil outsiders and start seeing them as comrades.
That sounds like a lot of effort. It’s easier and makes me feel better to just type “kill the nazis!” on my keyboard after I get home from my 9-5 shithole job that has made me hate my fellow human, and then slowly accelerate towards a hellscape of my own making, bitching the whole way down.
So I generally agree with your sentiment, but after a certain point they’re just lost. And at thatbpoknt I genuinely believe the only cure is a bullet (magic not required, but you might need a few)
How dare you propose a non-violent solution? Don’t you know nazis are the only violent ideologists that are incorrigible and need be killed? We should build camps for them or something…
Kill and killer and the number of killers stays the same. Kill a hundred killers and the number drops by 99. My ancestors had a lot of blood on their hands, I hope to get mine share with a damned good Casus Belli.
I dont want war. I want bloodshed that would equal my ancestors. The type where you butcher the slaver side of ones family. Or shoot a lawman for raping a younger cousin. Or killing Mormons for being cattle stealing cultists. I want mine just cause.
The problem with injuring Nazis is that they tend to just recover, and then go back to doing Nazi shit.
There was a pretty extensive study done from 1939 to 1945 on how to best deal with Nazis; for best outcomes, I’d refer to the results and testing techniques uncovered then.
If only they’d applied the lesson more thoroughly.
Too many of the wealthy nazis were let go to relocate to other parts of the world and continue their nazi bullshit. Hopefully next time that mistake isn’t repeated.
Too many of the wealthy Nazis lived in the United States and were never even in danger.
At least one of them may have been killed by a distant relative of mine. That or he did a fucken hate crime against some Prussian dude.
Well, TIL: hate crimes are cool sometimes.
I aint saying hate crimes are cool. My family legit doesnt know. If it was a Prussian Nazi then you basically killed the worst type of German that isnt an inbred mountain dweller. If it was just some Prussian exile then that relative just killed some dude for being a Prussian instead of an Alemanni speaker.
Okay, so hate crimes are maybe good sometimes. The nuance is appreciated.
Be the change you want to see in the world.
The 1911 is still the preferred method, be sure to clean and oil it regularly.
See, I’m not sure I agree. I’m an aggressively terrible shot.
Put enough of em in front of you and that doesn’t matter (☞ﾟヮﾟ)☞
That’s valid, empowering, and demoralizing-all at the same time. Thank you.
The universe has been around for 14 billion years, and I got to share this moment out of all 14 billion of those years with you.
Remember that (☞ﾟヮﾟ)☞
two world wars boomer ass take. we have better options than your john browning .45 stoppan power target pistol bullshit. the czechoslovakians have provided! get with the times!
Killing creates killing but apparently exit programs do work
But at least in Germany the main reasons for people to join exit programs are:
One could definitely argue that some sort of light violence towards fascists is self-defense which has a chance to lead towards exit programs. Killing on the other hand causes a lot more issues.
I agree. Killing a nazi only causes more problems. You will be hunted by both the police and his fellow neonazis and they can and will use it for propaganda.
“Kill Nazis” is a keyboard commando response to a more complex problem.
When your police departments and state legislatures and churches and clubs and mega-corps are all riddled with fascist partisans, there’s no magic bullet that makes them all go away. At some level, you need to cultivate relationships in your community. You need to be friends with your neighbors. You need to be able to find allies in these corrupted institutions who are open to reform. You need to be able to reach out to the lumpen proletariat - the unemployed, the homeless, the young and afraid - and bring them into your community to reinforce it.
Only when you’ve got a community that’s strong enough and unified enough to take on the fascist elements can you seriously talk about purging its worst elements. And once you’ve done the yeoman’s work of organizing your neighborhood for people’s mutual benefit, I think you’ll find a lot of that fascist sentiment melts away of its own accord - perhaps even transforms into revolutionary sentiment, as your neighbors stop seeing one another as evil outsiders and start seeing them as comrades.
That sounds like a lot of effort. It’s easier and makes me feel better to just type “kill the nazis!” on my keyboard after I get home from my 9-5 shithole job that has made me hate my fellow human, and then slowly accelerate towards a hellscape of my own making, bitching the whole way down.
So I generally agree with your sentiment, but after a certain point they’re just lost. And at thatbpoknt I genuinely believe the only cure is a bullet (magic not required, but you might need a few)
Sure. But ideally you can marginalize the folks who are batshit
That mechanism could do more harm than good, and Nazis should not be left to fester.
I feel like that’s redundant.
No. Getting caught by other nazis causes issues, and their murder clearance rates are notoriously bad, so…
How dare you propose a non-violent solution? Don’t you know nazis are the only violent ideologists that are incorrigible and need be killed? We should build camps for them or something…
Kill and killer and the number of killers stays the same. Kill a hundred killers and the number drops by 99. My ancestors had a lot of blood on their hands, I hope to get mine share with a damned good Casus Belli.
“I hope I will have to go to war” is such a 14-year-old take
I dont want war. I want bloodshed that would equal my ancestors. The type where you butcher the slaver side of ones family. Or shoot a lawman for raping a younger cousin. Or killing Mormons for being cattle stealing cultists. I want mine just cause.
You want to kill people first and are looking for a cause second. Cringe edgelord.
You don’t need a state to give you permission for a just cause, idiot.
Did I say fuck all about a state. I listed actions done by my ancestors which had fuck all to do with states.
I’m saying youre looking for cassus belli, that’s a state thing. I’m saying john brown this shit. Except for the last part. Don’t copy the last part.
I am glad people like you don’t have any real powers in the real world.
Well hey, pad your resumè for jsoc with a shit ton of cardio and keeping your local community fasch-free, but quietly.
Definitely. The study wasnt entirely ethical, but the data from Dresden shows pretty clearly.