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    Freedom of speech and assembly, including the right to peaceful protest, are a cornerstone of American democracy.

    However, that doesn’t mean there are no consequences…

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      No, that’s exactly what it means. As long as the assembly remains peaceful we are protected by law.

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        Hate to announce this to you, but you can say anything you want in this country. But, that doesn’t mean someone can’t punch you in the nose for it.

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      Yeah getting beat up and arrested by the police is totally what people mean when they say there are consequences for your free speech. /s

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        I’ve got a question. During Vietnam they knew that they had to move along on a protest March. Now, it seems everything has an occupy theme. Don’t get me wrong, there were times when students would occupy administration buildings during Vietnam, but that wasn’t common. So, are these folks going to march? Or, are they just going to sit and order pizza?

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          That’s not actually true, Vietnam Anti-War protests used encampments all the time. By camping instead of marching you allow more people to join the protest and it becomes more flexible. You don’t need to stay the entire time if you need to go to work or something. Camping as a form of protest goes back to at least the Bonus Army in the 1930’s. And in the Vietnam era the Mall in D.C. was camped on by thousands of people several times.

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            Well, I participated in Vietnam protests. So, when you say it’s not true, you are saying my own experience is not true.

            Camping wasn’t a formal of protest in the 1930s. I was a matter of necessity.

            When you put people in the streets, it gives a chance to see the size of your opinion. It’s also good for media to advertise that opinion.

            Now, all you see is nice tents and threats to Jewish Americans. No matter who you are, by occupying a public or private space you are begging to be moved.

            Protest the way you want, but it doesn’t make too much sense to occupy. Won’t get the, sympathy of the nation it seems to me.

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              A boomer thinks their anecdotal experience is indicative of anything beyond their own experience? Shocking.

              /s

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                  Yeah, he’s the classic boomer model of “my point is whatever makes me correct at this immediate moment”. Check his comment history for a laugh, he gives people grief for doing the same things he’s doing here. No self awareness or integrity whatsoever.

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                    I wonder if they will ever accept that israel constantly lies and shouldn’t ever be trusted without extensive investigation.

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                At least I had the experience in several places and that is more than the person making the assertion. Also, the media covered events of the day, so the observation is not just solely mine.

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                  I don’t think you understand what anecdotal evidence means. One person seeing something repeatedly is still anecdotal and of similarly little value when making statements about broader trends.

                  You didn’t link or even reference this media coverage that specifically supports your assertion so yes, for your comment and even this one, the observation is still solely yours. We’re not mind readers, we don’t know what you’re not telling us and, in case you ask, no, we’re not going to look it up for you. If you don’t provide evidence, people online generally assume you’re making it up, and rightfully so.

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                    I understand what you are saying, I just discount its importance. Plus, you started by calling me a name and now you attempt to talk down to me. Bet you’re fun at parties too.

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              Okay so you participated more in marches than encampments. Good for you. But before you say all you see are threats to Jewish Americans, think back to what you were accused of, and google Jews for Peace. You’ll find they’re active in these protests. Which would be kind of weird if they were in danger from their fellow protestors? Media is making it seem like these are radicals in the same way they vilified the students protesting Vietnam.

              And the 1930’s Bonus Army wasn’t homeless people. It was World War 1 veterans demanding their pay.

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                Well I was never threatened the way Jewish Americans are, but you seem to know better. It seems as though you put more importance on this than I do. There are stupid people inside protests just as there are in life and they say stupid things. It’s up to others to self regulate. I don’t see a lot of that going on, but I’m not there. I see a lot of fairly stupid things coming out of these protestors.

                You are right, the bonus army were looking for wages, and it was the beginning of the depression. They stayed in tents.

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          They took over school buildings? You don’t know what you’re talking about nor why you are programmed to have this response.

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      Having government goons attack and arrest you is not one of the allowed consequences under the constitution for peaceably exercising your rights.

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        Those goons are called police. If you are gathered somewhere you’re not supposed to be, the consequence is that the police remove you