• qooqie@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    A cat would though. My cat will absolutely not care who or what I am just that he wants his wet food now

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      6 months ago

      Not necessarily. Bears only attack humans if they feel threatened or see no alternative. In most cases the bear would prefer to avoid any confrontation with a human. They’re mostly peaceful.

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        Maybe if it were a black bear, they scare off easily. However a brown bear is not so easily intimidated, grizzly bears would tank a bullet, and polar bears are aggressive hunter’s, panda’s would easily win that fight… I could continue but I think you get my point by now.

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        6 months ago

        A man would not necessairly tell a woman with a doctorate to go to the kitchen either.

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        Can confirm, bears can definitely adapt to being around humans and be used to their presence. Lived in a tourist town that had a massive amount of black bears and I’ve literally been close enough to pet one after going around a corner, we startled eachother for sure, sat and stared for a second, and then calmly backed away and went our merry way. I don’t think I’ve ever heard of a bear attack there, and it’s literally where the story of cocaine bear came from and is filled with incredibly dumb tourists.

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    6 months ago

    I still think the bear question is completely loaded

    I would ALWAYS choose the bear. Everyone I know would ALWAYS choose the bear. If the random man was a person they were close to, most people would STILL choose the bear because bears are rad as hell

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      This is my take.

      My boyfriend isn’t terminally online so I often tell him things like this, in an impartial way.

      “The internet is mad because some women have been saying they would rather be alone in a forest with a bear than with a strange man.”

      Him: “Why is this a question? People are always the objectively worse answer.”

      “Well… some people are pointing out that the type of bear is important-”

      Him: “I would rather risk being mauled by a bear than have to deal with a stranger. Why is this controversial? I thought people on the internet hated people?”

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      Yeah. Bears will leave you alone if you leave them alone, and also I want to see a bear. I’ve only seen bears at a zoo.

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    The whole point of these is basically to cause people to fight, just like the original question

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    I straight up blocked the entire lemmy.world instance over this hypothetical. Too many people actually tried comparing this to discrimination against POC and Jewish folk.

    Honestly? No love lost, I just see less shitty memes and bad takes now.

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    There are two (three) types of people

    People who understand why women would choose the bear

    People who are the reason women would choose the bear

    (People who haven’t heard of the bear discourse and don’t have enough context from this meme to pick it up)

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      Sigh…

      I RUN a hiking group here in Australia. And the sole purpose of this question is to promote toxic men and women to start toxic discussions. I’ve never seen it posted outside of Reddit/lemmy in hiking communities, and the only real life discussion I had about it, was by a female hiker who messaged me about it once, and called it stupid… I agreed…

      The vast majority of people who join my group (even overnight solo with me), are women (and no, I’m not a bear). In fact, I’m probably as average as they get (straight, white, not particularly tall or short, no tatts, etc)…

      Whenever the question of safety comes up in hiking groups, and anyone says "women need to bring a weapon, and keep it under your pillow, trying to make them feel insecure, the entire female and male community tends to completely blast them for doing so. Such threads are always full of primarily women re-affirming others that they are safe and push them to give things a go. Based on that, I don’t think many women from the aussie female hiking community would agree…

      So, things might be different in America, but here in Australia, it’s not true. And I regularly speak to a few women who run their own groups, and whilst I can’t speak on behalf of any of them, I suspect at least some of them would hate this discussion, as they are interested in encouraging women to hike, be active and be their best self. This question is designed as a weird hypothetical instead.

      I’d even argue, the question likely wasn’t posted by someone who actually hikes much either. More likely it was posted by someone who wants to argue with others, or having a bad week (possibly some weird 4Chan troll even).

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        You’re missing the point of the hypothetical.

        Firstly, as far as I understand, the concept is supposed to be that you’re stuck in an unknown location with no witnesses. Hence the choice of “spend a night in the woods alone with a bear/man”. The purpose of this is to ensure that neither the bear nor the man are going to have peer pressure or have any sort of intervention from a third party.

        Secondly, I’m not a toxic woman and this isn’t a toxic discussion. The hypothetical is a vessel for encouraging discussion about women feeling unsafe around unknown men. The bear isn’t the point. The takeaway is supposed to be "a lot of women feel so unsafe around unknown men that they’d choose [insert bad thing].

        This isn’t a discussion about real life hiking safety. Many women (including me) are sharing their discomfort about random men. Hear them, acknowledge them. Their fear and discomfort is based on their lived experience or the lived experience of the women close to them.

        Side note, not sure if the Australia vs America comment was directed to me or the discussion in general but for posterity’s sake I’m not American and don’t live in America.

        There were two posts in men’s liberation which may be good food for thought.

        https://lemmy.sdf.org/post/16305417

        https://beehaw.org/post/13780248

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      Look, the bear doesn’t need any more points in its favour, it already won

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    I don’t think this is properly vetted until the kicker from the Chicago Bears gives a commencement speech.

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    And if said woman is a top chef, with a degree in culinary arts and science?

    That would make any kitchen in the world her realm and domain.

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    6 months ago

    Can we stop egging on insecure men? This topic has been beaten to death already.