…because it’s really important that meteorology calculations are done with the correct conservative perspective, lest you predict the weather in too woke a way or start believing in climate change and other elitist liberal dogma?
When will you folks learn to appreciate the artistic license used to tell a larger Truth? ^^^/$
He’s such a dumb shit.
fReE sPeEcH
Freeze peach
“Hey we’re going into town to throw rotting fruit at the billionaire, wanna come?”
“Yeah, just lemme grab something outta my freezer first.”
Smort
What happened to the right to speak the truth?
It’s not the left to speak.
Their truth.
Their alternative facts.
The actual truth is for snowflakes and liberals to get upset over.
This. All these losers champion free speech absolutism, and yet every single one of them tries their hardest to shut down dissent.
They know the slower among us will rally around the idea without thinking about it too much.
‘Just put the weather in the bag bro’
I’m honestly getting real fuckin fed up with this country
Good. I’m ready when you are, brother.
From the same people who scream and bitch and moan about their right of free speech. It’s only their right apparently.
Can you name one person who’s discussed free speech who was also involved in this firing?
I can’t name anyone who fired her and you know it. You also know that Elon Musk literally claims to be a “free speech absolutist” and then censors people who disagree with him and his fans are all in support of that.
There’s also not a word from muskrat denouncing her being censored and fired, which is hipocritical, to say the least, from a “free speech absolutist”
Absolutely his freedom to say and do what he wants. Everyone else can f’ked.
I can’t name anyone who fired her and you know it.
Correct. It was mostly a rhetorical challenge.
Given you can’t name these people, you were obviously speaking outside your sphere of knowledge when you said:
From the same people who scream and bitch and moan about their right of free speech.
You are really trying hard to protect Musk and his Nazi followers, but I’m afraid you’re not doing a good job of it.
EDIT: I love that the modlogs are public.
“Well it wasn’t from the Nazi region of France so it’s really just sparkling hate”
My new favorite sentence
Yikes!! Now we’re entering the phase where the Nazi salute is being dissected since they need a fucking microscope to suss out the differences.
“Oh, he didn’t repeat the German phrase?! ROMAN SALUTE, LIBTARD!!1” 🥴
We are already at “you can’t be a Nazi unless you’re in 1940’s Germany supporting Hitler”, centrists and liberals are going to enable this “enlightened thinking” to its end in the name of bipartisanship and “civility”.
We truly are doomed.
Incidentally I didn’t even realize that comment had been removed. Weird.
What’s even weirder is that my client is not showing the comment as removed at all.
Screenshot just now:
You sure know a lot about performing a proper nazi salute…
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The person making things up is the person saying Elon was not giving a Nazi salute in the most convoluted way possible.
That would be you.
A lot of people here thinking the USA is speed running fascism here.
No, the USA was always an inspiration to fascism (just ask the remaining Native Americans as an example).
That’s why it was able to adopt into it so quick. Not that hard to change a car to gasoline if it was already running on diesel.
Not that hard to change a car to gasoline if it was already running on diesel.
Is almost a good analogy, but that’s not so easy 😅
Frying fat would have been better, because most older diesels run on it out of the box.
Who gets their frying fat in a box?
Every restaurant I’ve seen with a fryer installed. Jugs don’t stack well, everything comes in boxes at the production level.
Well it did take awhile, but it’s definitely easier than turning a horse into an electric car
just have to replace the engine, how hard could it be? /s
better analogy would be converting a (relatively modern) gas engine to E85, it’s simpler, from what i understand
Yep, but to be fair, he’s not an expert in archaeology, so probably he didn’t realise.
Before WW2 broke out, the New York Times LOVED Mussolini. They kept pumping out articles about how much of a cool guy he was.
What if we called the original people Americans, and the newcomers immigrant Americans?
Clarity: Native American -> American
American -> Immigrant American
Because “American” is not their word for themselves. It is the Latinized last name of the Italian explorer (Amerigo Vespucci) who explored the continents.
It would be offensively ironic to name the original dwellers of this land mass after the guy, it would be assimilation.
All life on land is an immigrant is it not?
Not really. Those are human made concepts, so you must start from the inception of the concept of immigration. Good luck finding the exact date, since it predates written language :/
Well since dates are human concepts as well we can just state it is immigration date 00/00/0000. Are the months or days first? That’s up to you, haha. You make a good point, but you understand what I mean. If we consider immigration only being the integration into another state permanently then we would have to say we had mostly open immigration into the U.S. until the later parts of the 1800s. The first 99 years there were no real immigration laws here. (So roughly 40% of our history had no immigration restrictions for the most part)
And due to the transitive property of humans, if we follow this through to its logical conclusion then native Americans are immigrant Americans too
Which is why “indigenous” is the best word in my opinion. Not just for the indigenous Americans, but for indigenous people the world over. It’s generally understood to mean “pre-colonial.”
Edit: The only exception I can think of is that the Vikings settled Greenland before the Thule (who became the Greenland Inuit), but Danes are not considered indigenous and Inuit are. Maybe because the Vikings that settled there all left or died out and also maybe because the Vikings and the Thule settled different parts of Greenland and had very little contact with each other even when they could clearly see each other across a fjord. The very Christian Vikings of that era were probably quite reluctant to interact with people they saw as heathens.
They really are speedrunning fascism this time around. They did have plenty of time to prepare out in the open and gained public support with no long term repercussions.
Remember when trump said he had no idea what project 2025 was and that he had no intention of implementing it?
Yeah, I 'member.
Man I was thinking I was the only one that 'membered that.
Goddamn South Park being prophetic again.
It’s a common meme to this day…
ah, freedom of speech at its finest
Not supporting this but freedom of speech is freedom from prosecution. If you are flipping burgers and tell a customer your favorite category of adult film, your getting fired.
From what I searched, the meteorologist criticized Elon Musk on her private social media, not while working.
If you’re flipping burgers, and later you get home and post online on a personal account about your favorite category of adult film, it’s none of your employer’s business.
I totally agree. Still nothing to do with freedom of speech itself. The 1st amendment.
I meant free speech, not the 1st amendment (I’m not even from the US). The concept of freedom of speech is relevant to this situation.
I believe that a company threatening to fire its employees based on an opinion they had in private or in a personal social media account is wrong. I imagine this isn’t necessarily against the law, but should still be acknowledged as a form of censorship.
Of course, there are certain opinions that are absurd or even illegal(?). if a company relies on public image of its employees (not sure if i phrased this correctly) then there are situations where it’s reasonable to fire the employee for an opinion, but since it’s regarding opinions, this would be very difficult or impossible to define legally while still being fair.
I’m not exactly sure what my point is anymore so I’m just gonna stop arguing, but I’ll maybe read some other threads for some insight on the situation
I do agree though some jobs like a meteorologist means you are on tv and affect the reputation of your business. You can’t have actors on your TV show expressing opinions on social media that affect your bottom line. It’s bad for business which means you can be fired. All about money sadly. That’s censorship though, not freedom of speech unless your country has a different definition of the phrase than the U.S.
Freedom of speech and the First Amendment are two different things.
Freedom of speech is just that, free from government interference(look it up). You are referring to censorship.
Yep you are free to call out fascist your employer supports. And your employer is unfortunately free you to fire you. No free speech violations there. Now if they called in the government to take you off to a camp to be exterminated or re-educated. Once the government becomes involved it’s most definitely a free speech / human rights violation. Will get there soon enough. Still plenty of reason to be outraged.
Everything they accuse china and the opposition of doing it something they do or want to do themselves.
Every accusation is a confession.
Same as russia. Classic faschist strategy.
(The shirt makes it even better)
TESL…
TESLEBENSRAUM?!
TeSSla.
TEϟϟLA
TesLügenpresse
It’s a problem that the purge of those offended by nazis/oligarchs hinting too close to naziism is this early.
The Nazi speedrun all around the world scares me. It’s like they are competing with climate change, for who gets to kill us first.
They aren’t unrelated.
Meteorologist fired, picture unrelated.
Had to do some memeological research; that’s Yeon-mi Park, a North Korean defector on the Joe Rogan Podcast saying “in North Korea …”
she makes up shit about how bad life in is NK, like “we have to get out and push the train when it stops”
USSR vibes detected
Cmon this story doesn’t even involve a window.
Oof… just because the Russians are our enemies now, doesn’t mean they were Nazis during world war II. They fought the Nazi a lot longer than America did for sure.
Yeah they fought the Nazis - but first they made a deal with the Nazis to divide eastern Europe and went on a campaign of rape and plunder. You should look into the atrocities committed by the USSR during the 20th century - Germany paid a heavy price for their evils. Russia never did.
Yeah, the non aggression pact, trying to save what was left of Poland. (Guess where the Jewish people fled?) Its not like it was the only country(which unlike others, had reasons, tsarist regime and the civil war are not great for neither the army nor people) which was wishing to isolate itself from expanding Nazi Germany, not like US was neutral(and the businesses were allied) regarding Nazi Germany till last moment. And no, Germany did not pay a heavy price, just the rhetoric about Muslims in the German politics today can say that.
Also, I would like to mention, the fight against Fascism was done by the SOVIET PEOPLE, not only by Russians (my human waves!!!), this alone says a lot about your knowledge of history…
Ask the Estonians, Latvians, Lithuanians and especially the Suomi how they feel about the fucking Soviets. November 1939, the Russians attacked Finland and in 1940 they took the Baltic states. Stalin was hell bent on illegally occupying Europe and they were not going to repeat their 1920 failure when Poland stopped them on the Vistula (Wisla) River. The Russians and surprisingly, the Austrians, got away with it.
Yeah, the non aggression pact
Think he meant the invasion of poland that you’re using the official name for to pretend wasn’t an invasion done by both the soviet’s and Nazis. Liiiitle more extreme to work directly with them in invading the country where the worst of the camps were actually built then you’re implying here
this alone says a lot about your knowledge of history
As I said in another thread: the Nazis absolutely paid the price - they were subjected to war crimes trials, had their regime disassembled, and their country carved up and occupied by the allied powers for decades. How is that not a heavy price?
Meanwhile the USSR was subjected to nothing of the sort - it was actually the opposite, they were allowed to keep and drain the resources of all their conquored territories (even those unrelated to the Nazi regime).
True, but also the allies decided that war reparations had been a bad idea that helped the rise of the Nazis and instead of trying to extract a monetary penalty, they decided that investing in and supporting West Germany was the best plan for peace and international harmony. They were right, but it didn’t half make West Germany an economic powerhouse of Europe, especially because they didn’t spend any government money on the military because they weren’t allowed to have one.
Meanwhile the USSR faced economic sanctions.
So yes, absolutely you’re right about Germany, but it’s more than a little bit imbalanced to suggest that the second half of the twentieth century was characterised by sweetness and light towards the USSR hand brutal repression of Germany. It wasn’t like that at all.
Definitely wasn’t implying the USSR was treated sweetly, though I was under the impression sanctions toward them were all the result if their post war actions - i.e. not cooperating with the allies’ post war agreements. You may be more familiar with that than I am though.
Also, Britain and France signed a non-agression pact with the Nazis too, and not only that, they sold out Czechoslovakia (who they were allied to) in exchange! Meanwhile, the Soviets had previously sought agreements with them against the Nazis which were rejected.
The Soviet Union lost 27 million people fighting the Nazis, wtf is this Nazi apologia?
Yeah it was terrible is true that they had millions of war dead. But that doesn’t forgive the endless atrocities they committed, no matter the number.
I won’t deny that they did some awful things, but to be like, “At least the Nazis paid the price” is completely whitewashing the atrocities that the Soviets suffered at the hands of the Nazis, it’s absolutely Nazi apologia to say that.
Sorry but you really need to do more learning. It is absolutely not apologia, it’s the facts - the Nazis paid the price by being subjected to war crimes trials, having their regime disassembled, and their country carved up and occupied by the allied powers for decades. USSR was subjected to nothing of the sort - it was actually the opposite, they were allowed to keep and drain the resources of all their conquored territories (even those unrelated to the Nazi regime).
Except for all the Nazis who were recruited in Operation Paperclip, of course. Or the one who went on to become Head of NATO. Or all the Nazi companies like the one that manufactured Zyklon B and is known today as Bayer.
Are you sure it’s not you who needs to do more learning?
WTF is this soviet apologia?
It’s an objective historical fact that the Soviets lost 27 million fighting the Nazis. If that’s Soviet apologia, then I guess reality has a Soviet bias.
How many millions of that 27 million were shot by their own commissar for retreating, or from being used as cannon fodder in mass human wave attacks, where the hope was the Germans would run out of ammo?
Of course, “Russians are also subhuman and only used human waves”. The sacrifice of the tens of millions of the Soviet people towards defeating fascism was to be never forgotten. Yet here we are… While the USSR struggled to fight a major financed power (Nazi Germany was actually in pretty good relations to the US and British businesses, example is Ford), after having a civil war, and trying to scrape by with whatever bullshit the Tsarist Regime has left to them. US tried to stay isolated from the conflict, because they if anything, had better relations with the Nazi Germany than with the Soviet Union.
This comment is disgusting, people died defending not only their republics from fascism, but liberated others. And you boil it all down to " Human Waves", simple historical research will prove you not only wrong, but also racist. (Guess who invented the “Russian human wave” myth?) I wish for you to reconsider your frankly racist opinions…
Lend lease.
Of course no addressing the racism. You just say Lend Lease to show ever more deeply how clueless you are on the eastern front. Lend lease indeed did help the Soviet Union, most of it were trucks that were very much thanked for, as they allowed the soviet union to industrialize faster. Tanks, sadly, were completely underperforming in the eastern European conditions, the tankers of the Soviet Union much preferred the T-34 over any British made tank. Aircraft, was not allied with different concepts of the purpose of it on the battlefield. Western powers were using them to strike deep into the territory, meanwhile the Soviet Union preferred more heavier, but better for the front line, aircraft.
All in all, the role of Lend Lease was not that great. Soviets had their own conditions on the eastern front, with weather and material conditions completely differing to both US and Britain. This lead to the Lend Lease indeed helping the Soviet Union. But probably only to shorter the war by several months, not to win it. It is quite disgusting for you to respond in such a manner. I hope you change as a person.
You should do actual historical research instead of believing baseless and ridiculous propaganda. Tell me, where did you hear about any of those claims? Let me guess, Enemy at the Gates?
Blood red snow, by Gunter Koschorrek. ISBN 9780760321980 - Diary extracts from a German soldier who fought on the Eastern front and saw some pretty terrible things.
Not to mention all the stuff coming out of the Ukraine invasion, with Russian conscripts being shot for retreating by their commanders.
Blood red snow, by Gunter Koschorrek. ISBN 9780760321980 - Diary extracts from a German soldier who fought on the Eastern front and saw some pretty terrible things.
This is the first time anyone’s been able to produce a source on the matter to me and while I’m skeptical of an account by a single German soldier claiming negative things about the other side, I appreciate you providing it.
Not to mention all the stuff coming out of the Ukraine invasion, with Russian conscripts being shot for retreating by their commanders.
This makes the claim less plausible, not more. What are you actually claiming here, that Russians are genetically predisposed to shooting their own soldiers or something? We’re talking about completely different governments with completely different people operating in completely different structures and organizations. It seems to me that any accusation like that that’s thrown at both the USSR and modern Russia should come under extra scrutiny, because it’s more likely that it’s just recycled propaganda.
doesn’t mean they were Nazis during world war II.
Tell this to anyone in Eastern Europe who is not a Russian ;)
They were easily just as bad as the Nazis.
This comment has so many levels of unintended irony and missing the point that it is genuinely making me laugh my ass off.
Behold, the least propagandized people in the world.
It was a cheekey comment, you are reading too much into it.
I am aware how our dearest regime disposes of wrong think…
Her replacement will be predicting a lot of Heil in the future
