• ZealousSealion@discuss.tchncs.de
    91·
    4 hours ago

    I don’t understand why you’d drink a soy caffè latte, because I don’t understand why you’d drink a caffè latte, because I don’t understand why you’d drink any type of coffee.

  • GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml
    452·
    16 hours ago

    Completely wild to shit on soy milk in coffee.

    Like, if you’re trying to be toxic about your coffee, how do you even justify diluting the coffee with milk in the first place? Can’t even do toxicity properly, get real

  • 2ugly2live@lemmy.world
    401·
    18 hours ago

    I didn’t realize I was lactose intolerant for the longest time. I just assumed everyone had some food that gave them the booboos and it was just the price of living. I thought intolerance was synonymous with allergy, and since it didn’t kill me, I just assumed I didn’t have it.

    How I found out:

    Me: I sure do love ice cream. Sucks that it makes me stomach hurt.

    Friend: So you’re lactose intolerant?

    Me: Oh, no, no. Ice cream and milk have just always messed up my stomach.

    Friend:

    Me:

    Friend: That’s what lactose intolerance is.

    • socsa@piefed.socialEnglish
      19·
      15 hours ago

      A ton of adults legitimately don’t know that most people develop some degree of lactose intolerance as they age. They think lactose intolerance is like a rare disorder rather than the norm for mammals. It feels like the kind of thing they should have taught us in health class.

      “Around your mid 20s you should pay attention to if milk makes you fart a lot.”

    • UndergroundGoblin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      9·
      15 hours ago

      Same with my younger brother. He once told me that he has diarrhea least one time a day. He tought that this is a completely normal thing and is not willing to change anything. He would rather shit his pants than give up milk.

      • 2ugly2live@lemmy.world
        3·
        12 hours ago

        I thought everyone was dealing with it. Like, mine happens to be ice cream, someone else gets mudbutt from chicken wings or something. But we keep going because flavor demands sacrifice.

        Turns out that was not the case. 🙃

          • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
            1·
            2 hours ago

            In my mid 20s I was informed that most people don’t find it less easy to breathe after binging carrots. Still never had anaphylaxis and a bit are fine, but yeah I’m supposed to avoid them now

  • hperrin@lemmy.caEnglish
    164·
    22 hours ago

    I’m allergic to milk. Trying to explain that to people sometimes goes like this:

    “I’m allergic to milk.”

    “You mean you’re lactose intolerant?”

    “No, I’m allergic to milk. I can digest it just fine.”

    “What do you mean?”

    “Milk. I’m allergic to it.”

    “What happens when you drink it?”

    “My throat starts to swell up and get itchy. It’s hard to breathe for a while.”

    “OOOOOH. You’re allergic to milk.”

    “Yeah.”

  • peregrin5@lemm.eeEnglish
    1063·
    22 hours ago

    The boomer crusade against alternative milks is one of the weirder forms of toxic masculinity and smacks of subservience to and brainwashing by the milk lobby.

      • rumschlumpel@feddit.org
        19·
        21 hours ago

        Here in Germany they did succeed with it. Oat milk has to be called something like “Hafer-Drink” (note the anglicism) (literally “oat drink”).

        • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
          27·
          20 hours ago

          Yeah, but tbh, it kinda makes sense. You can’t print something on the packaging that says something that’s not the case. You can’t call it “oat milk”, because otherwise people should rightfully assume it was milk with some oat in it.

          • Cethin@lemmy.zipEnglish
            17·
            15 hours ago

            Historically, milk has been used to refer to any liquid with a milky white color. This can be crushed up plants or other things. Milk of magnesia, for example. It is a very old use of the term and changing it to only refer to milk from an animal is more inacurate than letting it refer to these substances. Don’t let the milk industry BS lead you to a false conclusion. Question what you’re told.

            Animal milk can call itself dairy if it wants to be specific. That’s the word for animal milk only.

            • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
              7·
              15 hours ago

              Ok i see, yeah, now that you mention it, we have “Löwenzahnmilch” (dandelion milk) in german, which refers to this:

              But also, “dairy” doesn’t work so well in other languages. I can’t think of a german translation.

              • Cethin@lemmy.zipEnglish
                1·
                6 hours ago

                Fair enough about the German thing. I was specifically speaking about English, since it was about the US Congress trying to regulate the word. There may be a better argument for German, but it sounds like it’s the same issue. From a quick search online, tierische Milch seems like the choice.

          • rumschlumpel@feddit.org
            21·
            19 hours ago

            No, that wouldn’t be “rightful”. It’s common knowledge that soy milk, oat milk, coconut milk and scouring cream (Scheuermilch in German) don’t contain cow milk. And it was never an issue when coconut milk was the only alternative milk-like product that was widely available.

          • Genius@lemmy.zip
            3·
            14 hours ago

            It is milk with some oat in it. The milk part of the oat. That’s exactly what it is.

            You mean people might think it’s breast milk with some oat in it.

            Rather than legislating plant milk, I suggest we legislate breast milk so that it legally has to have the word breast on the packaging.

          • iusearchbtw@lemm.ee
            122·
            19 hours ago

            Imagine calling a non dairy liquid “milk” prior to ten years ago, not conceivable

            Coconut milk, milk of magnesium, soy milk? Made up woke nonsense

    • JackGreenEarth@lemm.eeEnglish
      42·
      20 hours ago

      I mostly agree with you, but it’s not great to generalise about an entire generation some negative aspect of people that applies to many people, regardless of age.

      • telllos@lemmy.world
        4·
        19 hours ago

        It depends on the brands I guess. but if you drink it like that and with coffee, its not amazing.

        But mixed with cereals, cocoa it’s really good.

        There a brand in France that makes a vegetal milk with, macadamia, hazelnut, and almond. It’s truly delicious.

        I’ve started drinking milk alternative because I would get belly ache when drinking cold milk. And I saw the episode on kurzgesagt about milk. Where they say it’s better for the environment.

        In the end I’m still eating regular dary like cheese and yogurt.

      • BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee
        4·
        20 hours ago

        I get that, some brands don’t taste good at all. Weirdly enough, I really like the great value stuff. Planet oat or whatever’s decent too

    • Badabinski@kbin.earth
      71·
      21 hours ago

      Oat milk is good, but I can’t figure out how to make it foam up really nicely like cow’s milk when making a latte ): that’s about the only time I drink milk nowadays, so the lactaid is right next to the machine.

      • M137@lemmy.world
        1·
        4 hours ago

        “Barista” oat milk has been common for like a decade. How have you both never seen it and never found out about it?

      • BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee
        8·
        20 hours ago

        Get an “extra creamy” oat milk. Some brands even make a barista blend. The extra fat helps to form a fine and stable foam

    • MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml
      1·
      15 hours ago

      Well, at least ecologically, because oat grows everywhere. Btw, coffee has a really bad footprint too.

    • NeatoBuilds@lemmy.todayEnglish
      57·
      22 hours ago

      I also enjoy the occasional oatmilk latte but recently was reading something about how oats have all sorts of pesticides that can make their way into the milk

      • kbotc@lemmy.worldEnglish
        4·
        14 hours ago

        Is there an agricultural product that you eat that does not contain pesticides in some quantity?

        • NeatoBuilds@lemmy.todayEnglish
          11·
          13 hours ago

          Probably not but something like oatmilk could be consumed daily which i guess is where the problem comes in

          • M137@lemmy.world
            1·
            4 hours ago

            So you eat nothing else but animal products daily…? What you read reeks of fear-mongering with a good dose of “don’t think about it” thrown in, which clearly worked on you.

          • kbotc@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            12 hours ago

            As compared to onions, garlic, potatoes, bread, cereals, or fruit? I’d put adding 4 oz of oatmilk pretty low on our pesticide exposure list.

            Shoot, you should look up how American garlic’s been produced for the past few decades. It’s really disturbing and likely introducing pharmaceuticals back into human foods.

  • MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml
    3·
    15 hours ago

    Btw, is there a evolutionary cost to creating lactase? Because, why do we stop with it usually and only keep it if it has huge advantages?

    • Rob Bos@lemmy.caEnglish
      8·
      15 hours ago

      I would guess that humans have been around for what, 250k years? And that the vast majority of that didn’t involve a whole lot of milk after age 4.

      So it wouldn’t have been to much advantage to be able to metabolize lactose.

      • MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml
        1·
        5 hours ago

        No, there is, you get more from your cattle, and on a individual level, less likely to starve.

        Keeping Lactase production happened at least twice; north europe and a group in west africa.

        • Blackmist@feddit.ukEnglish
          1·
          1 hour ago

          Saudi Arabia too. I assume that camel milk came in pretty handy in early tribes surviving the deserts.

        • Rob Bos@lemmy.caEnglish
          1·
          2 hours ago

          Sure, if you a) keep mammals around and b) drink their milk. I’m not convinced domesticated animals have been a thing for all that long, evolutionarily. Long enough for some groups to have adapted, sure. We have adaptations for cooked food, too.

          [Searches] Cattle probably around 10k years ago.

        • Floey@lemm.ee
          3·
          4 hours ago

          It’s easy to break down into glucose, which is important for bodily functions. Gluconeogenesis is a thing, but it is inefficient.