• silvercove@lemdro.id
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    I experience the opposite. Whenever I criticise US government, I get attacked by hordes of cringy Americans.

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      I must say I had a pleasant conversation on workers’ rights in the US recently on c/technology (lemmy.world). By pleasant I mean “not being insulted because I live in France and workers do have rights so I’m a red commie” pleasant.

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        For the majority of Americans, as long as you are a pleasant person, you will have pleasant conversations, even if it’s about a disagreement.

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                    Lmao you don’t know even know what you’re arguing against. I never said anything about whether you should be polite, I just said that if you’re going to be a cunt you can’t complain about people being cunts back

                    Also if you did 5 minutes of research you’d see that c/comedyheaven@lemmy.world doesn’t allow any kind of hate speech, there are no slurs in any of the comments, and our most recent post removal was because of ableist and racial slurs. But go off I guess

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          Hi from the autistic guy that is physically unable to understand the rules of „politeness“ and burns out while pathetically trying to mimic them just to look like a creep anyway.

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          How can we have a pleasant conversation about the murders the American soldiers are committing in the Middle East? How does one be pleasant about murder?

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      is there any chance you are doing it while spouting Kremlin propaganda? because then there is maybe a time to look in the mirror on this one

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        Anyone that disagrees with the US government is spouting Kremlin propaganda. Riiiiight…

        You are a joke.

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          Anyone that disagrees with the US government is spouting Kremlin propaganda. Riiiiight…

          I mean, if you take what I said and completely change it, I can see why you might be upset at that. Though I would encourage you to reply to what I actually said.

          You are a joke.

          I am indeed a very funny guy, it’s a bit creepy that you know that though.

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              goes on an anti-tankie post Comments that his posts are always dogpilled by the most anti-tankie group. Claims ad hominem when someone points it out.

              :)

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                Is it wrong to engage in a conversation with people we disagree with?

                Would you rather have us segregate based on our opinions?

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              I merely posited that you might be getting into arguments because you have drank the Kremlin propaganda, but from your posts I see it’s more that youblike to defend the Chinese government for some reason or at least like to do “a Whatabout the USA”

              also I am not sure you ubderstand what ad hominem is, it’s attacking the person saying it rather what the person is saying, if I were to say “you are spouting Kremlin propaganda” would be the exact opposite since I would be “attacking” what you are saying not who you are.

              hope that helps

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                A lot of americans and some other westerners always assume that anyone who disagrees with them must be infected with Russian/Chinese/(insert bogeyman) propaganda.

                Whereas the truth is that the Western civilization is on a murder spree and the rest of us who are not Westerners are disgusted by it.

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          More than one thing can be wrong at the same time. The constant whataboutism is exhausting…

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          Imagine thinking any large state isn’t constantly injecting propaganda into the Internet. Couldn’t be me.

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              What I said was that people in the west are subjected to orders of magnitude of western propaganda, and perhaps should worry about that first.

              I’m capable of worrying about two things. Perhaps even three on a good day.

              Chomsky even pointed out recently that censorship in the west now is even worse than it was in USSR.

              Media being bad because capitalism pushes them to do evil to further their own ends is not the same thing as censorship enforced with state violence. These are both bad things, but uniquely bad in their own ways. I’m sad that Chomsky’s age has caught up to him and he can no longer distinguish the two.

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                  When people talk about censorship, they usually mean of media. Yes, I’m aware that the US government is an evil institution that targets activists and whistleblowers. You’ll never believe me, but I actually despise my government and nearly every person in it. However, authoritarian regimes also strike down those people, but additionally censor the media on top of it. So to say that state censorship is worse here and now is just asinine. There’s no need to make things up to seem worse than they are when they’re already very bad, it just leads to people swinging at ghosts.

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      Little do people know everyone is shit and your personality that is only based on ideologies makes you look like a moron. Yes we know there is unfairness in the world. But any “ism” won’t fix it.

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        “Yes we know absolute monarchs, unequal access to justice, oppression and the dumb wars they get us into are unfair, but no ‘democracism’ will fix it”

        It takes a very basic knowledge of history to understand why this argument is shit.