• GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works
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    Busting unions has two effects for republicans, it benefits their donors while hurting the oppositions donors. Dems get a lot of money from unions.

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    This really isn’t helpful or winning anyone to your enlightened perspective. Mainly because the message it really sends is division is the real value here.

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      If you’re feeling targetted by this meme and need to be “won” over to the side of supporting basic labour rights then buddy I don’t give a shit about your cheap “support” or the constantly moving goalposts that help you avoid any kind of real action.

      Anyway: “Boo hoo my feewings were hurt by a meme based 100% in decades of pwecedence waaaaah.”

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        Lol. That’s the only reason you see that I could possibly not want to further alienate fellow Americans.

        I support unions. I am a leftist. We are already a nation divided. We can and should work to correct that. The Treaty of Versailles wasn’t a great idea on the world stage. The equivalent accountant working class domestically isn’t, either.

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          They’re alienating themselves. Nothing you do will appease them short of weakening your position enough for them to attack it. The right has turned feral.

          You don’t need to go out of your way to be cruel, but they can absolutely go fuck themselves and being called out on their bullshit is fine by me.

          But sure, waste your effort being nice to them. It must feel so good being “above” having to address anything.

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            But sure, waste your effort being nice to them. It must feel so good being “above” having to address anything

            You are doing what you accuse them of doing. In addressing plenty, and it’s working. Oddly because they are willing to find common ground and go from there.

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              In what fucking world is the far-right doing anything in good faith? They say they are, and they are always lying. They move the goalposts so much that the field is a perforated mess and you’re still falling for it.

              There is no common ground in all the world that would ever set foot on which contains “you can oppress trans people based on no evidence a little”. There is no middle ground for “I get that we’re both worried about the economy but since you are fully economically illiterate and have zero empathy for working class people I suppose we can do a half-measure that will ultimately not work very well just to make you feel better.”

              No, that time was decades ago. I do not compromise with fascists, and if you truly believe that the middle ground hasn’t been abandoned then maybe you need to wake up and realize that the vast majority is either already on it or to the right of it. The Democrats are not leftists, they are centrists at best save for a small handful of them. Infinitely better than the GOP, this is not a both sides issue, but holy fuck the scales are not balanced.

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              You’re not wrong, there is ground there, and this meme kinda raises the same question tbh.

              Edit: Also, they shouldn’t have deleted your shit. That’s weak sauce.

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                Holy smoke! Zero reasons given! I guess they couldn’t countenance how very much like the other side they actually are!

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                  I guess they couldn’t countenance how very much like the other side they actually are!

                  Did you just look up synonyms for the word “face?” That one doesn’t work in the context here lol

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                Triggers can serve us, if we have the strength to look at ourselves fearlessly and honestly. As I said elsewhere, we’ve stared into the abyss* so long, we’ve become it.

                Thanks so much for engaging with depth and honesty. I really appreciate that.

                Eta modlogs tell the story if anyone cares and those aren’t altered. I’m curious to the “reason.”