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- cross-posted to:
- gaming@beehaw.org
- games@sh.itjust.works
Hoo boy. Not a good look AMD. It was scummy when nVidia did this, it’s scummy when you do it.
Hoo boy. Not a good look AMD. It was scummy when nVidia did this, it’s scummy when you do it.
I think it’s a stretch to claim that proprietary software is inherently anticompetitive, though I won’t argue that Nvidia as a whole is often very anticompetitive.
Implementing DLSS is no more fundamentally difficult than implementing FSR. Source-availability only makes things easier in certain edge cases, most uses will just use the precompiled library provided by the vendor. You don’t need any kind of special permission or agreement with Nvidia to use DLSS. The interface for these libraries is so similar that there are already community-made wrappers that adapt between the two for games that only support one.
That’s exactly the point of making something proprietary. Like, literally the point, so your competitors cannot use it. It’s anti competitive.
So we’ve established:
That FSR is freely available to implement
That DLSS is proprietary
That FSR is on more games than DLSS and/or that games with DLSS often have FSR.
That DLSS works only on NVIDIA cards
that FSR works on, for all intents and purposes, all cards.
And you think it’s evidence of foul play that FSR is on more games? Really? You don’t see how your sampling bias has played into this?
You really don’t believe AMD sponsoring these games has anything to do with it?
Ease of implementation in most cases can’t have anything to do with it, because most games don’t even need to do any work to enable it. DLSS support is included in Unreal and Unity, right alongside FSR. They’re both just checkboxes. Being open source has nothing to do with choosing to enable one but not the other. That is much more a philosophical concern than a technical one. Trust me, as a developer, a library being proprietary means very little to us when building a video game. How much it costs to use is the much bigger factor, and from that perspective, FSR and DLSS are identical.
AMD isn’t your friend anymore than Nvidia, they just want you to think they are because they don’t have an abusable market position yet.
I don’t think aliens are abducting people either, no. Again, you’re starting with a conclusion, finding sample biased not-even-data, and saying “see?”
This isn’t evidence of AMD locking DLSS out. This is just someone being upset NVIDIA doesnt get special treatment all the time, because FSR is just a bigger market for developers to sink time into.
Which by the way, for in house engines, FSR or DLSS are nontrivial dev times. Even for unity or unreal they can be nontrivial depending on your game.
This is obviously so neither here nor there that it’s silly. Last I checked starfield wasn’t on unity.
Have I said AMD is my friend, or am I calling someone out on wild speculation with no evidence?