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I don’t care if your language model is “local-only” and runs on the user’s device. If it can build a profile of the user (regardless of accuracy) through their smartphone usage, that can and will be used against people.
I don’t know if I’m understanding this argument right, but the idea that integrating locally run AI is inherently privacy destroying in the same way as live service AI doesn’t make a lot of sense to me.
think of apple’s on-device image scanner ai that flagged people as perverts after they had taken photos of sand dunes.
Microsoft Recall
I’m not opposed to A"I"; far from that, I actually use text generators a fair bit, sometimes image gens. It’s simply a technology and I use it as such. And I still bloody hate how corporations handle it:
- Always two weights, two measures. If you violate their IP, you’re a filthy criminal; if they violate yours, you’re overreacting and a luddite and harming progress. I want to see copyright gone, but if it is not, then apply it consistently to all sides. (By the way, fuck “Open"A"I” and their Bob Dylan defence.)
- Always nagging you to use it. If you’re nagging me to use something, it’s because it’s in yours best interests that I use it, not mine. No means “no” dammit.
- Always implicitly lying about its abilities. No, I’m not going to ask it anything where a bullshit answer might ruin my day, stop misleading me to do so.
- Always downplaying issues. Yeah, nah, I’m not blind to the environmental concerns around training those huge models. Or that corporations - that don’t understand what “consent” means - basically DDoS sites to train their models.
But of course they won’t talk about this, right? This sort of questionnaire is not made to genuinely obtain feedback; it’s made to mislead you.
That image is kind of off putting
“Original Character plz do not steal” Sonic but purple with glasses
Took me a minute to understand everything that was going on with the open ai logo in the thumbnail…
Goatse vibes
Potentially related: https://velvetshark.com/ai-company-logos-that-look-like-buttholes
Pro-AI people want to do away with copyright entirely. Seen a lot of stupid shit recently, but seeing so-called anarchists on db0 claiming that copyright only helps big business takes the cake.
Movements to abolish or reduce the scope of copyright existed long before the current “AI” hype. Keywords around it are: free culture, the Pirate Bay, “copying is not theft”, etc.
I’ve long been sympathetic to such and I don’t think “AI” changes anything about that.
Wait, wouldn’t it make sense for an anarchist to opposite intellectual property law on the grounds that the only way you could possibly enforce it beyond those in one’s immediate community would be with a larger state and associated law enforcement apparatus, which an anarchist would be expected to be against the existence of?
I’m not sure that has much to do with AI, and if anything, AI companies should somewhat like copyright since what they are ultimately selling is a form of software, which is harder to profit off without such law. They just want the concept to apply selectively so as not to impede them.
In an actual anarchistic society, we wouldn’t need copyright. But we live in capitalism. Stuff like copyright is needed until property itself no longer needs to exist. I’m all for changing the world toward anarchism, but I am not naive enough to believe for a second you can do it all at once without a major cataclysmic event and taking away the few things that at least attempt to make things fair within the current system is monumentally stupid.
Yeah
Unfortunately there is a bit of a damned if you do, damned if you don’t situation here. Put overly simply: If we start enforcing copyright in training AI models now, do you really believe that any companies who have already trained their models are really going to just toss them? I’m afraid that it’s going to just be regulatory capture where the existing big names just pull the ladder up behind them while still making money off of their stolen content fueled plagiarism machines.
We’ll ignore that OpenAI isn’t actually profitable for the sake of the argument.
That said, abolishing copyright is quite possibly the stupidest solution I’ve ever heard for this issue.
No, I don’t think they would. But I also do think that copyright has been bastardized from its original intent (mostly by Disney). Abolishing it entirely while not moving away from capitalism would be bad. Going back to it only lasting for the lifetime of the creator, and not being able to pass it down would be better.
Id argue that to some extent, its foundational to capitalism, such that any effort to actually abolish it would almost necessarily require destroying or significantly curtailing capitalism to succeed anyway. Virtually every company based on selling information, such as software and media companies that are some of the biggest on the planet right now, would find such an effort an existential threat, and even companies not based on such things may have patents or designs that give them an edge and that they would expend a lot on avoiding giving competition free range to copy. If you’re able to overpower them on something so important to them, in so consequential a fashion, then their grip on economic and political power would have to already have been greatly reduced, and some other basis of such power to draw on for support would have to exist.
Furries apparently do not understand why we dislike fursonas.
I’m much more accepting of fursonas than plagairism machines that can’t be trusted to give accurate information.
We don’t exactly force other people to use one, and it doesn’t hurt anyone for us to, so why should we care?
Who cares about fursonas??
It’s gross, like when someone puts big titty anime girls on a tech blog, it’s off putting to anyone who doesn’t share the fetish.
It’d only be a fetish to the people who only like furries for the porn they make and don’t have an interest in the rest of the subculture that it comes from, which probably isn’t the sort of person to use a fursona to represent themselves on a tech blog in the first place.
It would be a lot easier to engage with the subculture from the outside if the porn wasn’t so prevalent or up-front as it is/had been in the past, and if the weirdest/most socially maladjusted members of the culture didn’t tend to be the most attention grabbing (but that’s an issue with almost every group online though).
If you’re up for it, I’d love to be pointed at some good examples of the subculture outside of the fetish/kink stuff.
Some of that is down to the general culture of the furry fandom I think, it tends to be a fair bit more sex-positive and less inhibited society at large, and while porn is a thing fairly common to humans in general (obviously not every human engages with it and the degree varies with the person, but still, it isnt exactly rare), if you have one group of people who have far less of a taboo about talking about and sharing it than those outside that group, thats the thing that outsiders are going to notice about them, especially if the stuff they make in that category is visually distinct from adult content found elsewhere. Its not universal of course, there are definitely puritanical furries out there if you look for them and the fandom is big enough that I cant say with certainty that the people Ive encountered are entirely representative of it, but thats the notion I get.
To be honest, Ive come to get it over time, it can be nice to feel like you can just be open about every interest one has without having to think about which things are and arent suited to sharing with other people, but the natural consequence of choosing to reject a social norm is looking cringey or worse to those that still value it.
As far as where the subculture goes outside the fetishey stuff, theres a lot of digital art made that isnt sexualized, but beyond that Id point to some of the more “irl” stuff furries are known for, like conventions, fursuits, and other related crafts like that (ive seen people with things like custom made plushies or other physical art). While some do bring adult things into those, it isnt really the norm. More or less all the sorts of creative or social aspects that you might expect of a media-based fandom, like star trek fans or such, just without any one big IP franchise behind it and instead an emphasis on making your own stuff with an informal set of shared themes and tropes.
I wont try and point out specific events and craftspeople, since I am an extremely shy and anxious person irl and most of my interaction with other furries has been online spaces, mostly with my specific friend group that happens to be made up almost exclusively of them, but there are quite a few, especially in the US and EU. Anecdotally, that shyness is part of why I got into it in the first place, it somehow feels easier for me to make friends and generally interact socially, by creating a character that represents a more idealized version of myself that is more outgoing and less anxious, and pretending to be that character. Which is one of the things a fursona is, its partly an internet avatar and an outlet for creative expression, partly a subculture identity signifier to help find like minded people, and partly a sort of mask and social tool for self-reflection.
If I had a blog, Id represent myself using mine just like the person in the OP is, get used to presenting yourself that way long enough and doing so ends up just feeling natural to you.
what exactly was sexual about an animal cartoon? doesn’t seem much different from what I grew up seeing on cartoon network.
I know that side exists, but none of it was on display here
Furries are a sexual kink.
*Some furries are a sexual kink. Many of them just like the look of animals.
You sound like the person that had a meltdown at her office when finding out a coworker was gay because she couldn’t stop thinking vividly about all the sinful gay sex they must be having with their partner.
Your lack of knowledge should be a reason for you to shut up.
Sounds like you’re in denial of liking fursonas/feeling they are sexual 😁
It’s like telling a woman she must be a closet lesbian because she doesn’t want to see boobs everywhere.
Are you the furry who doesn’t want to see fursonas everywhere in this analogy?
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Bud, you are the one that compared it to calling a woman a lesbian for not wanting to see tits everywhere. That comparison only works if the one complaining about it also has tits, ie is a furry.
What is this, 2003? Furries run the internet.
Whole IT teams would crumble without furries
We’re fucked if a plane headed to Anthrocon ever crashes.
Fursonas are pure narcissism. Imagine if non-furries acted like furries: you open someone’s social media and if every pic they upload is commissioned artwork of their (human) selves. You walk into their home and the walls are covered in self-portrait paintings. You chat with them and they reply with ‘stickers’ of pictures of themselves doing gestures or facial expressions. Pure narcissism.
Have you seen youtuber merch?
Ever heard of Bitmoji? Or Apple’s Genmoji thing? People do create stickers of themselves doing gestures or facial expressions, it’s fairly popular… And most of Instagram is people posting thirst traps and selfies. Not sure why you’re singling out furries here…
Instagram?
This is also selection bias, the furries that dont upload their art every day and make it their profile pic aren’t seen, only the ones that do.
