If we keep going back, Israel has committed far too many hostilities that were never responded to. Hell, they bomb syria most weeks without any retaliation form Syria. They commit horrors against west bank citizens all the time.

Yep. Most places the UN would come in and try to settle everyone down, but the US basically blocks anything like that, and it’s possible that’s mostly because of mystical prophecies they believe.

And Israel has been attacking Hezbollah and Hamas.

Iran has been surprisingly restrained in not getting directly involved. However, directly attacking an Iranian embassy forces their hand in a way that retaliating against their proxies does not.

This is not some abstract notion about ethics. It is simply a basic strategic observation. The fact that Iran is attacking Israel directly, is a direct and predictably consequence of an strategic decision that Israel made.

It didn’t start with the embassy, it got worse with the embassy. Iran is not in the right here, but Israel is not interested in de-escalation either. Both are warmongers, and it’s the people who lose.

You cannot say it started with hezbollah and Hamas were shooting rockets into Israel. The occupation has been committing massscres since 1917.

Let’s not forget the same thing I have to say every fucking time in one of these posts: Just because the United States did something wrong does not mean others should follow

You guys need to learn from our fuck ups!

Has the US ever bombed an embassy? Knowing your post history, I have a feeling you left out that detail for a reason.

Theocratic dictatorships tend to be like that. Iran does not care about MAD either, I reckon.

Wasn’t Hamas created in response to Israeli aggression?

Not defending Hamas, but they don’t exist in a vacuum.

iran is funding and arming hamas, hizballah and the houthis, all of which were attacking israel. in addition to their attacks on usa bases.

don’t forget that those fucks also support Russia with their drones…

Meanwhile Israel funds and arms terrorist groups in Iran like the Mojahiden-e-khalq or Al-Nusra in Syria, in addition to their cyber attacks on Iran and assassinations of Iranian scientists.

Yes, it does, and it sucks. It’s basically war over there. That said, attacking an embassy is a line where Israel’s actions should have been condemned. The point is not that Iran is in the right in any way, the point is Israel is just as wrong here.

My local news straight up called these air attacks “Iranian aggression”. No, you fuckers, Israel went first this time. Usually it’s a slight slant but that’s just lies.

I’ve seen the media careful to make a distinction between the embassy and “a consular building adjacent to the embassy”. I did a quick search expecting the to be the defense.

But international law is the real wtf. According to the Wikipedia entry

is the obligation of the country in which an embassy is located to protect the embassy, but international treaties do not expressly prohibit a third country to target diplomatic premises if they host combatants and are targeted in an act of self-defense, although a claim of self-defense cannot usually justify an attack on the territory of a country not participating in hostilities.

So, it’s Syria’s fault for not protecting diplomatic buildings? Plus Syria probably has a claim against Israel, whereas Iran doesn’t?

I’m sure Israel will attempt to argue self defense based on the targeted officers and however they may have participated in the original attack and involvement of Yemen, but that’s a pretty big stretch.

“Embassies.”

Not just allowing israel to do so, but providing them with weapons and now America and the UK are even intercepting any retaliation. Making sure nobody can fight back against the bully.

Unfortunately, I’m not certain it’s in Israel’s best interest that this doesn’t escalate. They can probably do serious damage to Iran whereas the reverse is far less certain (evidently from this attack). And they knew very well that their embassy attack will bring Iranian retaliation. Now they’ll just use that for an even greater response.

I’d say the best that could be hoped for is Israel shoots everything down.

• Iran got their revenge
• Israel wasn’t harmed
• As a US citizen, I’m fine with encouraging this part of the war to end with “sure, we’ll replace all the missiles Israel used to defend themselves”

Before everyone attacks me, remember that anti-aircraft missiles are good for defense but not offense.

This drone attack by Iran may have more to do with “showing” it’s little vassal terrorist groups it’s prodding and bankrolling into doing Iran’s dirty work that Iran is “doing” something militarily in support of Hamas and the Houthi.

What is a drone strike that is going to take 8 to 10 hours to arrive supposed to accomplish when it’s so easy to spot coming well ahead of time. It’s not like Iran doesn’t have missiles that can hit Israel in a handful of minutes if Iran really wanted to do damage.

God I hope this place doesn’t turn into something like Voat where it’s just another 4chan like environment filled with all the users banned for posting racist shit and CP.

They’re being a bit futile. If your default sort is active it doesn’t hide any downvoted comments.

And if you’re on an instance like Kbin or Beehaw, downvotes don’t even affect vote count because the downvotes are not federated.

Who do you think the tankies support in this conflict? Or, is this just poisoning the well to help Israel / US?

Based on what evidence? Even if it were, an attack on an embassy or consulate is akin to attacking their territory. If Israel has a right to retaliate against Hamas then Iran has every right to retaliate against Israel.

Terrorist is a meaningless word.

By terrorism you mean brown people committing acts of violence? This is a response to Israel attacking Iran much like the genocide in Palestine is a response to Hamas attacking Israel.

Irrelevant, embassies are internationally protected sanctuaries.

They were victims of the Holocaust. They were aggressors in the Nakba. They were probably victims one or more times after that, as well as aggressors (I’m a bit fuzzy on that history, honestly), and now they’re aggressors doing a “proportionate genocide” in Gaza. And they want to start shit with Iran, which might just be a case of two assholes fighting each other.

Chihuahuas don’t kill so many children.

Also they have started the hostilities and made enemies of neighbors, not like they weren’t offered a fair share of land even in the face of them settling in there because the big ex-boyfriend just forced so.

I’m not quite sure how to fit Netanyahu into this analogy, but that’s also a factor. The dude doesn’t want to go to jail and it looks like he has no problem flattening the Middle East if it helps prop him up.

It is an open air prison, no doubt about that. Yet the apartheid in this case did not arise out of pure racism, but as a reaction to a history of constant suicide bombings. Besides, there are 2 million palestinian israelis living peacefully inside Israel…but there is also a part of Israel that does not help their case either by covering for every nationalist invading the West Bank or the cruelty they allow to go unpunished e.g. Shireen Abu Akleh.

Not looking to be antagonizing, as you’re correct those are the reasons. But it should be said that they are stupid reasons. We should be weaning off oil as quickly as possible. The second point is in a lot of ways a hindrance, as shipping zones means shipping away manufacturing jobs.

And none of that is worth the price of war, or supporting genocide.